Want IT job in RSA

[Anu]

Hey cverbois
Thanks alot .... In mean time i'll try to find more contacts in SA. Hope something works out for me....

I guess there will be few companies who look fr job for expats.. i need to zeo on them... Will drop list of those companies in this forum if i get any.

Cheers
Anu

[jonathanb]

The so called skills shortage is a joke. I have over 17 yrs experience in the IT field and am very good at my job. A year and a half ago the outsourced customer I worked for relocated from Durban to Gauteng and I was offered the opportunity to either relocate or be retrenched. I chose the retrenchment thinking that I would get a job pretty easily. For the next 6 months I applied for every job I could and was told that I would be great but I would either have to take a big pay cut or paint myself black (this is not racist it is a fact of SA life). I eventually had to leave my family behind and come to the UK where I got an excellent job within 2 days of arriving. For the year I have been here I have kept on applying for jobs back in SA but still get the same responses that I did when I was in SA that is even if the agencies even bother to reply which most dont.

I would return tomorrow to help aleviate the skills shortage but until the government lets people get by on their skills instead of their colour I wiont be able to.

That is my 2 cents worth.

[Anu]

hey jonathanb

I agree with yu finding a job is not all that easy.. specially if you physically not present there, And for whites it bit more difficult.. i guess policies need to be changes there....

Anyway my remark was based on my exp....
like there are jobs on website pnet.. for whicj i applied in last sep and they are still open... they keep changing date .... And upload that job detail again and again.. But not able to find people who matches the req.....

Infact when ever i get response... Things get stuck with me not being A south Africaan, I worked in Sa for 2 yeasr with big company on contract.. And i have seeen wat kind of resource crunch they having. They hire people.. and when people get little exp, they leave for hire package...

Anyway... tell me how is job market in UK for IT people
I m seriously considering movng out of india.... have already applied for US visa.. will come to know abt final status in few days.. and if i dont get.. i m going to apply for HSMP...

lloking forward to hear from you.

Cheers to life ( McDonald )
Anu

[jonathanb]

Hi Anu

The jobs you see on Pnet and the others that keep getting put back on are not real jobs, they are just jobs made up by recruiters to bolster their CV database to help them in getting companies on their books so dont think that that gives you an indication of the skills shortage.

Also dont think that it is hard just for whites, it is just as hard if not harder for Indians and Couloreds in SA to find jobs as they dont fit in with the AA policies either.

There are plenty of jobs in the UK but if you are a developer, then India is the place to be as a huge amount of development work is being off-shored there due to the lower salaries.

Cheers

[Anu]

oh thats bad .. so basically they fooling job seekers.....

yah i know it is hard for everyone to get job in sa except few people. And thast why most of them leave SA and go to US and UK... my most of friends have left SA or they are just planning to leave.

yah i know india is going to get lots of develpoment work..infact it's already getting, i guess thats basically work related to Application programming or so... But in BI client very rarely allows to offshore things.. Checked BI market in UK.. looked fine to me.. but as u said.. it can be just show off..

i need to do little more investigation.

Cheers
Anu

[DannyBoy]

Originally Posted by Anu

hey jonathanb

I agree with yu finding a job is not all that easy.. specially if you physically not present there, And for whites it bit more difficult.. i guess policies need to be changes there....

Anyway my remark was based on my exp....
like there are jobs on website pnet.. for whicj i applied in last sep and they are still open... they keep changing date .... And upload that job detail again and again.. But not able to find people who matches the req.....

Infact when ever i get response... Things get stuck with me not being A south Africaan, I worked in Sa for 2 yeasr with big company on contract.. And i have seeen wat kind of resource crunch they having. They hire people.. and when people get little exp, they leave for hire package...

Anyway... tell me how is job market in UK for IT people
I m seriously considering movng out of india.... have already applied for US visa.. will come to know abt final status in few days.. and if i dont get.. i m going to apply for HSMP...

lloking forward to hear from you.

Cheers to life ( McDonald )
Anu

Anu, did you eventually get to the U.S?
The job situation here is pretty bad right now, ESPECIALLY for I.T people. Layoffs are happening everywhere. The company I work for in Columbia, S.C, plans to lay off 1500 people in the next two months. Also the jobmarket is only expected to improve by 2014. It's a bad situation over here.

[Anu]

No I did not get to go US....

Because of slow down companies stopped hiring from India...

I m still working in India

Hope things improve quickly....
Anyway im not looking for going to US anymore...

But still trying for SA....

As I m soon getting married and my fiancé is good in designing....
So wanted to come SA and she wanted to open a boutique if Indian clothes there...

I know Indian clothes are quite popular among Local Indians...

Hope things work out my way some day

Cheers
Anu

[Anu]

Can any one tell how is job market doing now a days.

i'll be looking for job in Data ware house designing, on tools like Business Objects and Oracle Ware house Builder.

What pay one can expect with 5 year off exp in Business intelligence.
Already looked at net, but most of the time i see same job posted , looks like they are dummy jobs

Waiting for replies
Thx
A

[DannyBoy]

Originally Posted by Anu

Can any one tell how is job market doing now a days.

i'll be looking for job in Data ware house designing, on tools like Business Objects and Oracle Ware house Builder.

What pay one can expect with 5 year off exp in Business intelligence.
Already looked at net, but most of the time i see same job posted , looks like they are dummy jobs

Waiting for replies
Thx
A

Hello Anu,

your best bet for now if you do decide to go to S.Africa, will be Johannesburg or Pretoria. Joburg seems to still be hiring and proceeding with new projects from the responses I've got. However right now Cape Town seems to be pretty quiet.

The good news is that Canada and Australia are ADDING NEW JOBS each month, so maybe we are coming out of the world recession at last,...maybe.
Sadly, the U.S again layed off another 286,000 workers in September.
Nearly every person I know in I.T in Boston, is now out of work.

What about you taking a months vacation and then going to Johannesburg and in that month contacting as many I.T people as you can?

That is my plan when my current assignment ends. I will go to Joburg for one month and try find something. That way if I get something in Joburg I can accept the position and have a job. If I don't get anything,.....well,....that's another problem.

This is just something you can consider. It's very difficult to get a job when you're not in the country, but nearly everyone I have spoken to says FIRST get a job and then GO.

Take it easy.
Dan

[DannyBoy]

Originally Posted by jonathanb

The so called skills shortage is a joke. I have over 17 yrs experience in the IT field and am very good at my job. A year and a half ago the outsourced customer I worked for relocated from Durban to Gauteng and I was offered the opportunity to either relocate or be retrenched. I chose the retrenchment thinking that I would get a job pretty easily. For the next 6 months I applied for every job I could and was told that I would be great but I would either have to take a big pay cut or paint myself black (this is not racist it is a fact of SA life). I eventually had to leave my family behind and come to the UK where I got an excellent job within 2 days of arriving. For the year I have been here I have kept on applying for jobs back in SA but still get the same responses that I did when I was in SA that is even if the agencies even bother to reply which most dont.

I would return tomorrow to help aleviate the skills shortage but until the government lets people get by on their skills instead of their colour I wiont be able to.

That is my 2 cents worth.

Hello Jonathanb,

Are you still in the U.K or have you managed to find work in S.A.

Do you have any idea of the demand for Legacy system programmers/ Analysts in S.A. I used to work at the Old Mutual, back in the day, but they are only considering AA candidates at this time. Does work knowledge count for anything in S.A or is it just the I.T skillset that is important. For example I have many years of Health Insurance experience in Development and Prod Support, would this be valuable to a company over there, or do they just care about how much DB2 and CICS (technical skills) etc a person has?

Also as a contractor there, is the demand low or can a person in their forties still find enough contract work to take them thru to retirement.

Thanks for any info you can provide.
Dan