Johannesburg - Page 3

Mbali-sa · #21 (**permalink**) 12th May 2008, 08:40 AM

Hi Hetal,

My advice to you is to arrange a preliminiary visit to S.A, that way you can assess for yourself, South Africa is a beautiful country and has its good and bad points just like any other country, and its unfortunate that the media chooses to highlight only the negative points, i suppose bad news is what is said to sell. Feel free to contact me for any infor, i live and work in Midrand with my husband and kids and go about my life while of course practicing the necessary precautions. Ivy

Chapito · #22 (**permalink**) 13th May 2009, 10:24 AM

Yes, I am aware that I can be broken into in other places in the world, what worries me is the prospect of rape/murder during the burglary in SA. In such a gated community, with such a level of security, I would have thought that security companies would be very keen on keeping their contracts and would select their staff accordingly.
Now, if, in this highly secured community, a burglar makes it and break into my place, would he run the risk of aggravating his situation or only stick to stealing, knowing that an armed patrol is on its way ?
Are these 2 suppositions rather correct or am I being naive?

Darko · #23 (**permalink**) 13th May 2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chapito

Yes, I am aware that I can be broken into in other places in the world, what worries me is the prospect of rape/murder during the burglary in SA. In such a gated community, with such a level of security, I would have thought that security companies would be very keen on keeping their contracts and would select their staff accordingly.
Now, if, in this highly secured community, a burglar makes it and break into my place, would he run the risk of aggravating his situation or only stick to stealing, knowing that an armed patrol is on its way ?
Are these 2 suppositions rather correct or am I being naive?

As I said before, if you want a guarantee that it will never happen to you - then DONT move to Jhb / SA. If you are happy with a 0.05% chance of being murdered, then make your own mind up.

Why not vist first - look-see??

Daxk · #24 (**permalink**) 13th May 2009, 10:43 AM

When you are lieing down with a gun to your head you are praying that there are no sirens or that no-one comes at that moment.
It is very common for them to shoot you at that point as any "rescuers" will attend to the wounded before chasing escaping criminals.
I speak from personal experience in the same way that I have 3 friends who were raped.

Darko · #25 (**permalink**) 13th May 2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chapito

Yes, I am aware that I can be broken into in other places in the world, what worries me is the prospect of rape/murder during the burglary in SA. In such a gated community, with such a level of security, I would have thought that security companies would be very keen on keeping their contracts and would select their staff accordingly.
Now, if, in this highly secured community, a burglar makes it and break into my place, would he run the risk of aggravating his situation or only stick to stealing, knowing that an armed patrol is on its way ?
Are these 2 suppositions rather correct or am I being naive?

What job is it that you have been offered?
What is the start date in the offer?

I am always interestied in knowing these things, and why ANYONE woudl move anywhere without having at least been there once on a long holiday!

Michaela77 · #26 (**permalink**) 13th May 2009, 01:30 PM

There is not a lot of good stuff you hear about SA. But most of these stuff is concentrated in the area of Joburg. I mean, of course these things can also happen in Cape Town, but Joburg is the number once place. I mean, you can surf the web and all the forums and blogs u can find about SA and Joburg, in each of them you will find these kind of stories. Like myself, couple of weeks ago, someone broke in our house, I woke up and saw him, was running behind him, till he turned and came on me with a knife in his hands. As I backed off, he turned again and went. I was lucky (in Cape Town).
But what my friends tell me about Joburg, thats hectic man. A friend, living in a security complex. While going through his front yard to the house, he sees a person with a gun on the corner. Just as the person starts shooting, he jumps into the house and closes the door. Later on a neighbour shoots the guy, who saw the happening. After that they find out, that the guy was fighting the security man at the gate and shot him, too.

Martinw · #27 (**permalink**) 14th May 2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Michaela77

There is not a lot of good stuff you hear about SA. But most of these stuff is concentrated in the area of Joburg. I mean, of course these things can also happen in Cape Town, but Joburg is the number once place. I mean, you can surf the web and all the forums and blogs u can find about SA and Joburg, in each of them you will find these kind of stories. Like myself, couple of weeks ago, someone broke in our house, I woke up and saw him, was running behind him, till he turned and came on me with a knife in his hands. As I backed off, he turned again and went. I was lucky (in Cape Town).
But what my friends tell me about Joburg, thats hectic man. A friend, living in a security complex. While going through his front yard to the house, he sees a person with a gun on the corner. Just as the person starts shooting, he jumps into the house and closes the door. Later on a neighbour shoots the guy, who saw the happening. After that they find out, that the guy was fighting the security man at the gate and shot him, too.

Michaela77 You have to in the unlucky crowd, because according to some people you have to be very unlucky for these things to happen to you. The odds are so low that they are bound not to happen at all. Well that is what I understand from some people on the forum.I would rather say that most people in SA would either have a personal experience of what you descibed and worse or know of someone that was affected this way.

In Durban I missed robbers in my house by prob 2 minute(lucky for me, wife and 6month baby girl) I was that angry that I chased them in my car. They were that arrogant that they would stand prob 15 m away laughing knowing I could not drive through the park. I wonder if some people really believe that these things do not happen on a daily basis. A family member of mine was one of them that did not believe all the horror stories till it happened to her - That sort of opens your eyes. I do not believe everything anyone tells me, but when a lot of people say the same thing and have no reason to make it up, I would at least listen end take notice. Hope more people take notice of other people's experiences so they do not have to be the one to also have to tell it after it happened.

Darko · #28 (**permalink**) 14th May 2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Martinw

Michaela77 You have to in the unlucky crowd, ........ you have to be very unlucky for these things to happen to you. The odds are so low that they are bound not to happen at all.

Exactly MartinW. Finally you understand!!