Even Dr Zuma has a sense of humour!

[DannyBoy]

Your post above said -
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One of the most influential campaigners against the "Jew-imperialist design" in South Africa was John A. Hobson (1858-1940), a prominent journalist and economist.

In 1899 the Manchester Guardian sent him to South Africa to report first-hand for its readers on the situation there. During his three month investigation, Hobson became convinced that a small group of Jewish "Randlords" was essentially responsible for the strife and conflict.

In a Guardian article dispatched from Johannesburg just a few weeks before the outbreak of the war, he told readers of the influential liberal daily:

In Johannesburg the Boer population is a mere handful of officials and their families, some five thousand of the population; the rest is about evenly divided between white settlers, mostly from Great Britain, and the [native black] Kaffirs, who are everywhere in White Man's Africa the hewers of wood and the drawers of water.

The town is in some respects dominantly and even aggressively British, but British with a difference which it takes some little time to understand. That difference is due to the Jewish factor. If one takes the recent figures of the census, there appears to be less than seven thousand Jews in Johannesburg, but the experience of the street rapidly exposes this fallacy of figures. The shop fronts and business houses, the market place, the saloons, the "stoops" of the smart suburban houses and sufficient to convince one of the large presence of the chosen people. If any doubt remains, a walk outside the Exchange, where in the streets, "between the chains," the financial side of the gold business is transacted, will dispel it.

So far as wealth and power and even numbers are concerned Johannesburg is essentially a Jewish town. Most of these Jews figure as British subjects, though many are in fact German and Russian Jews who have come to Africa after a brief sojourn in England. The rich, rigorous, and energetic financial and commercial families are chiefly English Jews, not a few of whom here, as elsewhere, have Anglicised their names after true parasitic fashion. I lay stress on this fact because, though everyone knows the Jews are strong, their real strength here is much underestimated. Though figures are so misleading, it is worth while to mention that the directory of Johannesburg shows 68 Cohens against 21 Joneses and 53 Browns.

The Jews take little active part in the Outlander agitation; they let others do that sort of work. But since half of the land and nine-tenths of the wealth of the Transvaal claimed for the Outlander are chiefly theirs, they will be chief gainers by an settlement advantageous to the Outlander. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This kind of thinking about the Jews running the world and "Johannesburg" was rampant at the time (1899) that John Hobson journalised his Johannesburg visit. It's what people in Europe and Britain wanted to hear and it sold newspapers. It's what influenced the young Adolf Schicklgruber to persue a career in politics and what he discovered was THE way to gain votes for his Nationalist Socialist Worker Party, in a post war Germany. It is chronicled very well in a book called "The Politics of Hate: Anti-Semitism, History, and the Holocaust in Modern Europe".
(a highly recommended book by the way).

Britain didn't care then, and it doesn't care now what it did to other people in other countries (India, Palestine etc.). The Afrikaners did get and still are getting a raw deal, and it's an outright shame, but before 1948 the dirt poor Afrikaners were living side by side with the "Africans" and not in a GOOD way according to the Afrikaner elders (Church leaders and people higher up in the Afrikaner hierarchy).

White Afrikaner children ran around with snotty noses, barefoot playing in the bush with their neighbours who happened to be other dirt poor blacks. There was a lot of racial mixing. For the sake of not losing the Afrikaner as a nation (and I don't have the links to this information anymore, you can google it) the elders decided that if they could rule the country, they would impliment a seperate development policy.
There was no hatred against the black man at that time by the Afrikaner, (pre 1948), it was solely to ensure that the Afrikaner would survive as a people.
Once in power however, due to corruption and greed the seperate development policies became nasty.

The Afrikaner however also attempted to seperate himself from other people living in South Africa at the time, such as the English, Jews, Portuguese, Chinese and Indians. Even in 1985 an Afrikaans girl from a "good family" marrying a "nice guy from Joburg" was frowned upon. God forbid if that "nice guy from Joburg happened to be Harry Cohen or the son of the local Rabbi".

The point is that a lot of people started seeing the Afrikaner as EXCLUSIVISTS, who did not want to mingle or associate with other people. This caused immense resentment amongst many of the English speaking South Africans. More so after the second world war when people learned or remembered that many amongst the Afrikaans volk had been pro-Germany, even though South Africa had been an ally of Britain.

Also from your email above -
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The rich, rigorous, and energetic financial and commercial families are chiefly English Jews, not a few of whom here, as elsewhere, have Anglicised their names after true parasitic fashion. I lay stress on this fact because, though everyone knows the Jews are strong, their real strength here is much underestimated.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Once again, "Anglicised names after true PARASITIC fashion" is typical of the thinking at the time. One only needs to read Henry Fords book "The International Jew" or Mein Kampf to confirm this.

From your posts, you appear to be very PRO Afrikaner, for whatever reason, and that is not a bad thing. As mentioned Seperate Development was a policy that they used to ensure the survival of their people. Does that make them evil,......No, it's what they thought was best for the Afrikaner at the time. It brought the Afrikaans people back into the modern world. They could get good jobs (mostly in the Government service), good schooling and leave the tent camps that many of them were living in at the time.

The British were an Empire at the time, so arrogance was the order of the day. Yes, they will never admit their crimes, but the colonies have come back to haunt them and they are paying dearly with massive third world immigration, Sharia Law being practised in their back yard, religious extremists born in Britain who hate and want to destroy the British way of life. Things don't bode well for the future of Britain (England).

As for the Jews, many do pay dearly for their crimes (Maddof comes to mind as well as others associated with the Enron and Worldcom companies that went bust), but here again to scapegoat an entire people for the crimes of a few is also insane, but sadly also the accepted order of the day.

Life Happens, people and especially people in power make mistakes.

[Daxk]

excellent post. dannyboy.

[JoziJoe]

Originally Posted by DannyBoy

Y
This kind of thinking about the Jews running the world and "Johannesburg" was rampant at the time (1899) that John Hobson journalised his Johannesburg visit. It's what people in Europe and Britain wanted to hear and it sold newspapers. It's what influenced the young Adolf Schicklgruber to persue a career in politics and what he discovered was THE way to gain votes for his Nationalist Socialist Worker Party, in a post war Germany. It is chronicled very well in a book called "The Politics of Hate: Anti-Semitism, History, and the Holocaust in Modern Europe".
(a highly recommended book by the way).

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I don’t know whether the perception that Jews are running the world or, for that matter, Johannesburg, was in the past or present. There certainly seems to be a lot of powerful groups, world bankers and financiers, positioned far above the public face or power of politicians, that have dramatic impact on human existance on the planet. Whether they are Jewish or not is not really the point. (not mine anyway).

It is however a fact that Johannesburg, in it’s heyday, had a large representation of Jewish, British and Afrikaners as a priviledged elite. Johannesburg Northern Suburbs such as Berea, Yeoville, Killarney, Houghton, Rosebank, Westcliffe strongly represented wealthy Jewish families. Johannesburg (known comically as “Jewberg” at one stage) had an “English” image, whilst Roodepoort, Krugersdorp and Pretoria were the Afrikaner outposts.

The Afrikaner however also attempted to seperate himself from other people living in South Africa at the time, such as the English, Jews, Portuguese, Chinese and Indians. Even in 1985 an Afrikaans girl from a "good family" marrying a "nice guy from Joburg" was frowned upon. God forbid if that "nice guy from Joburg happened to be Harry Cohen or the son of the local Rabbi".

The point is that a lot of people started seeing the Afrikaner as EXCLUSIVISTS, who did not want to mingle or associate with other people. This caused immense resentment amongst many of the English speaking South Africans.

Correct, the extremely conservative Afrikaans families, much like the orthodox Jews, frowned upon association, marriage or accepting values of unfamiliar entities.

But good ‘ol hollywood style romances between SA Barbie Doll Anneline Kriel and Sol Kerzner or the controversial Jani Allan, who truly swung the pendulum between being married to Jewish businessman, Gordon Schachat and having an affair with Neo Nazi Eugene Terreblanche proved that money can cross just about any barriers.

More so after the second world war when people learned or remembered that many amongst the Afrikaans volk had been pro-Germany, even though South Africa had been an ally of Britain.

Many Afrikaner families and their descendants, who suffered the injustices of Kitchener’s schorched earth policy and in rememberance of thousands of Afrikaners who died horribly in the Boer War concentration camps, were openly anti British. Whether that influenced their pro German attitude I don’t know. Even in more modern South African times, there was always rivalry between the Afrikaners and the English in South Africa.

From your posts, you appear to be very PRO Afrikaner, for whatever reason, and that is not a bad thing. As mentioned Seperate Development was a policy that they used to ensure the survival of their people. Does that make them evil,......No, it's what they thought was best for the Afrikaner at the time.

Yes, during my search of credible knowledge (not necessarily googled textbook facts) to try and inform a totally, ignorant of their own colonial history and catastrophies, British audience, I surprised myself at almost wanting to defend the Afrikaner, something that conflicts totally with my personal and family convictions. I admit, I was in unfamiliar waters. And whilst I agree that the preservation of one’s own culture is not evil or incorrect, I think South Africa has taught us the lesson that it cannot be done at the exploitation, disrespect for or possible extermination of other cultures.

You on the other hand appear to be very PRO Jewish, which is also not a bad thing. Dr Zuma also thinks it is kiss and make up time, he has issued them a personal invitation to return.

[JoziJoe]

Originally Posted by Daxk

excellent post. dannyboy.

There you go Dannyboy, a pat on the back of someone you recently irritated the hell out of.

Daxk, I am very surprised to see you hanging out on a thread that is not really your "cup of tea" (for lack of an equivalent Irish expression). This thread is about people's perceptions, personal insight and interpretations of daily life in South Africa and specifically Johannesburg, emotional IQ, that sort of thing.

Very little googled, textbook facts here I'm afraid.

[Daxk]

This thread is about people's perceptions, personal insight and interpretations of daily life in South Africa and specifically Johannesburg, emotional IQ, that sort of thing.

Very little googled, textbook facts here I'm afraid. "

Actually,it appears to be your monologue.
but as I enjoy reading anyway, i'm hoping for something that might strike a chord or give me some new insight.
Nothing yet,I'm afraid. but Dannyboys post was good.

[JoziJoe]

Originally Posted by Daxk

but as I enjoy reading anyway, i'm hoping for something that might strike a chord or give me some new insight.
Nothing yet,I'm afraid.

Perhaps that is because you are not the intended audience, it's like watching a movie not intended for your age group.

And I agree, Danny made some excellent points, this one in particular is a stunner!. A point, strongly contested by your comrade, Halo.

Dannyboy:

The British were an Empire at the time, so arrogance was the order of the day. Yes, they will never admit their crimes, but the colonies have come back to haunt them and they are paying dearly with massive third world immigration, Sharia Law being practised in their back yard, religious extremists born in Britain who hate and want to destroy the British way of life. Things don't bode well for the future of Britain (England).

That explains/confirms why the British form the LARGEST group of immigrants in some of their ex colonies, especially New Zealand and Australia! Larger than any Asian Immigration group, now that is really interesting! And, contrary to popular belief, their presence in South Africa is on the rise, not on the decline (I've lost the link to that article unfortunately) but can vouch for the conspicious British Immigration to NZ and Australia.

Actually,it appears to be your monologue.

Yes, with the British being one of the largest immigration groups in the world, their presence on Expat Forums will reflect same, and this particular subject matter will not be considered easy dialogue.

Seeing that you love reading Daxk, it's time to brush up a little on the current rising, working, black middle class earning good money these days in SA, well nurtured by dr Zuma. A little climate Meteorology wouldn't go amiss either, comparing climates from a sunny, short wintered South Africa to bleak and rainy Ireland just don't gel.

[DannyBoy]

Originally Posted by JoziJoe

I don’t know whether the perception that Jews are running the world or, for that matter, Johannesburg, was in the past or present. There certainly seems to be a lot of powerful groups, world bankers and financiers, positioned far above the public face or power of politicians, that have dramatic impact on human existance on the planet.

Hello

well here's the thing, why the specific mention to Bankers? (with a subtle hint to JEWISH Bankers.

Remember a while back when Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz, a key architect of the Iraq war, was nominated by George Bush as head of the World Bank. Well the "white Supremist" groups in the U.S had a field day. Germans were polled on the streets of Hamburg and many said that they were "uncomfortable" having Wolfowitz in such a powerful position. Even the right wing moslem bunch were OUTRAGED by the appointment of PRO-ISRAELI Wolfowitz. The fact that the man could do the job was besides the point. Who he WAS, was more important than his ability or lack thereof.

Happily for all these folks, Wolfawitz didn't last long, and his departure convinced even more people on the planet that "those greedy and deceitful people" truly can't be trusted.

But why stop at the power of Jewish bankers.
Lets look further afield to other "areas of influence" to PROVE that there really is a WORLD CONSPIRACY by the Jews to take over the world.

Lets look at Music:
1) Leonard Bernstein in Classical music, George Gershwin, Isaac Stern, Yitzhak Perlman., not to mention all the violinists from Israel overrunning the planet.

2) In Modern Music, why, here we have - Burt Bacharach, Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Art Garfunkel, Neil Sedaka, Paul Simon, Bruce Springsteen, 3 of the members from KISS, Barbara Streisand, Robbie Robertson, Lou Reed, Leonard Cohen, all of the Beastie Boys, Van Halen: lead singer/founder David Lee Roth, Carole King, Carly Simon, Dire Straits: Mark Knopfler, Randy Newman, Kenny G, Lenny Kravitz, Andrew Dice Clay, Janis Ian, Barry Manilow, Bette Midler, Arlo Guthrie, Dave Bromberg, Billy Joel, Wallflowers: Jakob Dylan, Sha Na Na: Ritchie Joffe, Elliot Cahn, John "Bowser" Baumann, Manfred Mann, T Rex: Marc Bolan, Neil Sedaka -
It's an outrage,....how are non-jews supposed to compete with THIS BUNCH and get anywhere in the music industry?

And don't get me started on Jewish movie stars,.....now there's another WORLD CONSPIRACY in action -

Barbara Stresiand, David Arquette, Hank Azaria,
Matthew Broderick, Mel Brooks, George Burns, Billy Crystal, Tony Curtis, Rodney Dangerfield, Daniel Day-Lewis, Kirk Douglas, Michael Douglas, Robert DowneyJr., Richard Dreyfuss, David Duchovny, Peter Falk, Elliott Gould, Cary Grant, Harrison Ford, Goldie Hawn, Dustin Hoffman, Bette Midler, William Shatner, Alicia Silverstone, Ben Stiller.

What about Jewish Democrats currently IN POWER in the U.S -
Senator Barbara Boxer (California)
Senator Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
Senator Al Franken (Minnesota)
Senator Dianne Feinstein (California)
Senator Herb Kohl (Wisconsin)
Senator Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)
Senator Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) (Independent)
Senator Carl Levin (Michigan)
Senator Bernard Sanders (Vermont) (Independent)
Senator Charles Schumer (New York)
Senator Arlen Specter (Senator, Pennsylvania)
Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon)

Man, this is scary stuff.

So in view of this, it would appear that the Jews are indeed running the world.

Global Warming, the current Economic meltdown, problems in Zimbabwe and South Africa, war in Iraq and Afghanistan and Sudan, drug cartels in South America, H1N1 and AIDS, heck even the Ebola Virus, diversity and racial mixing, liberalism, rapid growth of Islam in Africa and parts of Asia, uncontrollable non-white immigration to Europe, birth rates in third world countries, inability to find a cure for cancer, wasting money looking for water on Mars, Nuclear proliferation, ..........
ALL can be blamed on ONE and ONLY one group of people,.....come on,...say it isn't so. Yes,....it's them parasites. They did it.

Man I go down on my knees every Sunday in church and I thank the Good Lord that I'm not one of them....Oh My,.....I just realised,....................even the Good Lord,...when he visited the planet,........HE WAS "ONE OF THEM" !!!!!!!!!!!!.

Man, you just can't win.

Move on Jozi,.....you know as well as I do that the Jewish World Domination card is an old one that's been played so many times it's getting kinda tatty.

Just live your life happily with the people that you love and don't get distracted by things that don't matter. when you're on your deathbed thinking about what might have been, none of this B/S matters anyway.

[Halo]

Originally Posted by DannyBoy

Just live your life happily with the people that you love and don't get distracted by things that don't matter. when you're on your deathbed thinking about what might have been, none of this B/S matters anyway.

How about

Nobel facts?

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 or about 0.02% of the world population.

They received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 -! Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis

Physics:
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1995 - Martin Perl

[JoziJoe]

Originally Posted by DannyBoy

ALL can be blamed on ONE and ONLY one group of people,.....come on,...say it isn't so. Yes,....it's them parasites. They did it.

My! Poor little 'ol me just asking questions, I seem to have triggered an avalanche!

With such an impressive curriculum vitae of Jewish achievement you both supplied, are you surprised that Jacob Zuma is on bended knee begging them to return to South Africa and enrich the SA gene pool? The phrase return in this particular instance is very significant as it actually proves their impressive presence as major benefactors of Apartheid South Africa was not a figment of South African conspiracy imagination!

Furthermore, it also indicates that their impact on Apartheid South Africa was so dramatic that their absence is unbearable, especially those that fought so hard for the release of Mandela and then, in true soap opera style, a curious twist of fate, (the Hollywood factor), fled the country in their thousands just before his release! (somehow bypassing the extremely strict SA Exchange Control Regulations).

Please bring back that clever ambiguity into our gene pool, share it with us, teach us how. Renegades and Mavericks are not a concern anymore. White Afrikaner Farmer Ethnic cleansing, brutal slaying of Zimbabwean refugees and Aids will take care of all the unwanted elements still hanging on for dear life in that cesspool.

The big question of course is, are they willing to share? Never really been a strong point with this particular group of the priviledged white Apartheid elite. (strongly reminiscent of your point regarding the resentment caused by white Afrikaners being seen as exclusivists).

Two good looking, single, jewish sisters living in fashionable (at the time), Berea, Johannesburg apartments, their choice of marriage partners severely marginalized by their strict, rich Jewish father. Thou shalt marry thy own kind. They spent their weekends at Jewish single clubs, trying their best to mingle and be suited with the fragile unavailability of elligible Jewish men in their own age group. Shopping in Sandton, coffee shops in Hyde Park, Killarney, Cyrildene, Greenside. Lorraine was in her early forties, when, thank goodness, Manny came into her life and took her off the shelf but Lara, alas, she grew to be an old maid condemned to having affairs with her non Jewish lovers (I think they called them bagels?), waiting for the old man to kick the bucket.

They form such a small part of the talented, global population. By no means as expendable as the rest. whose sheer numbers send them all over the world, hunting for new homelands and recognition of their talents, as their own countries are in the process of being destroyed for one reason or another, a fate even the British have to face these days. Africa is being destroyed by stupid Africans you know, it has nothing to do with resource wars and exploitation. Who knows, maybe Africa has mass weapons of destruction?

Scary stuff? You forgot to include the Nobel prize for Peace List! Gasp! Judging by the 2009 appointment, it seems the criteria to receive the prize no longer includes proving ability first. And as for Henry Kissinger, Oi vei!

• 2009 - Barack Obama
• 2008 - Martti Ahtisaari
• 2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Al Gore
• 2006 - Muhammad Yunus, Grameen Bank
• 2005 - International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei
• 2004 - Wangari Maathai
• 2003 - Shirin Ebadi
• 2002 - Jimmy Carter
• 2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
• 2000 - Kim Dae-jung
• 1999 - Médecins Sans Frontières
• 1998 - John Hume, David Trimble
• 1997 - International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Jody Williams
• 1996 - Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, José Ramos-Horta
• 1995 - Joseph Rotblat, Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs
• 1994 - Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin
• 1993 - Nelson Mandela, F.W. de Klerk
• 1992 - Rigoberta Menchú Tum
• 1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi
• 1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
• 1989 - The 14th Dalai Lama
• 1988 - United Nations Peacekeeping Forces
• 1987 - Oscar Arias Sánchez
• 1986 - Elie Wiesel
• 1985 - International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War
• 1984 - Desmond Tutu
• 1983 - Lech Walesa
• 1982 - Alva Myrdal, Alfonso García Robles
• 1981 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
• 1980 - Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
• 1979 - Mother Teresa
• 1978 - Anwar al-Sadat, Menachem Begin
• 1977 - Amnesty International
• 1976 - Betty Williams, Mairead Corrigan
• 1975 - Andrei Sakharov
• 1974 - Seán MacBride, Eisaku Sato
• 1973 - Henry Kissinger, Le Duc Tho

Originally Posted by DannyBoy

Man I go down on my knees every Sunday in church and I thank the Good Lord that I'm not one of them....Oh My,.....I just realised,....................even the Good Lord,...when he visited the planet,........HE WAS "ONE OF THEM" !!!!!!!!!!!!.

Yes, how can you forget, he was crowned KING OF THE JEWS when they crucified him!

Originally Posted by DannyBoy

Man, you just can't win.

Move on Jozi,.....you know as well as I do that the Jewish World Domination card is an old one that's been played so many times it's getting kinda tatty.

Just live your life happily with the people that you love and don't get distracted by things that don't matter. when you're on your deathbed thinking about what might have been, none of this B/S matters anyway.

In other words, sweep it under the carpet, then it’s out of sight, never mind the ambiguity, or else what, face cement boots or yet another mind boggling assassination?

[jojo]

This has got to be the most boring thread I've ever red on the forum!!? Keep it clean and free from personal or racial insults wont you, otherwise I'll have to read thru it again, in fact if I've missed any already, I'm sorry, I fell asleep half way thru!!
Jo xxx