White South African Granted Refugee Status in Canada

[JoziJoe]

Originally Posted by pegleg

Mmm . . . +-50 million blacks or more (who's counting?) and between 3 - 5million whites in SA. (Children, teenagers, adults and the aged?) Are most of these whites responsible for the Rapes, murders, armed robberies, Farm murders, racial slurs, comments, etc?

Pegleg, no, you misunderstood my statement but I don't blame you at all because my opinion on SA matters is not a popular theory at all, you will notice evidence of this on the "SA Haters" thread, I tread on some very sensitive toes.

Your argument is a valid one and your mathematics reflects reality. +- 50 million blacks (probably excluding the millions of illegal Zimbabwean & other African countries' refugees increasing as we speak) vs +- 4 million whites (numbers reducing as we speak) makes it mathematically impossible for South African Whites to be responsible for the current violence and slaughter in Southern Africa. I am pointing to another white villian that is not resident in South Africa, the nation that introduced racial segregation in SA, the nation that knighted mass murderer, Robert Mugabe, but now refuses to take responsibility for their actions.

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1918 Natives in Urban Areas Bill
Blacks forced into urban reserves known as "locations"

1923 Urban Areas Act
Enforces residential segregation providing cheap labour for white industry

1948 Afrikaner Nationalists perpetuated the existing system and named it Apartheid.
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As far as Brandon Huntley goes, I applaud the guy, no matter what his motivations or qualifications are! Canada is demonstrating what taking responsibility for what is right means.

Johannesburg – It was naïve to think there was no measure of retaliation involved in the violent crime committed by black South Africans against white people, says Brandon Huntley's legal representative Russel Kaplan.

Kaplan was responding on Monday to the storm that has erupted around Huntley, 31, who was granted refugee status in Canada, because he alleged he would be oppressed in South Africa due to the colour of his skin.

He reported that he'd been attacked seven times by blacks who called him a "white dog" and a "Boer".

Payback

Kaplan gave a message to "so-called" experts, who said crime was not driven by race.

"To think that, in a country which has been polluted with apartheid for decades, that for some there is not a bit of retaliation, of payback involved in the violence inflicted on white South Africans, is naïveté in its utmost degree," he said.

"There are Brandon Huntley stories all over the world. His story is true. Personal stories of fear by white South Africans and the cruelty they must suffer merely for being white, are constantly flooding in. Many have already left South Africa," said Kaplan.

Regarding the decision by the Canadian government to seek approval to have the decision argued in the Federal Court, Kaplan said he believed the facts were correct and on Huntley's side.

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/119c10a9072b4d75984e5cc690210c43/08-09-2009%2009-21/Crime_due_to_retaliation

As an immigrant in a country with strong British presence I have heard the "it's time for payback" phrase to a point where it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Gosh, they even say it with a cynical grin on their face! I'm sick of the hypocrisy about Southern Africa.

(By the way I must just add that I when I work I have no time to sit and surf Internet News sites, so I am no expert in the field, I only hang out on Internet "Techie" sites, so my political news links are not always spot on. I just speak from the heart, I am trying to find the truth about what really destroyed my country of birth, none of the popular theories makes total sense, including blaming it on the blacks).

Apologies for the long essay reply, this is a very emotional subject for me.

[Halo]

Originally Posted by JulianQ101

He is talking pure manure![/B] General crime or racist affirmative action isn't grounds for a refugee claim.

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Perhaps you should ask those individuals where were burned recently how much hate is around in old sunny SA.

[Daxk]

Short question.
There are a Group of Criminals.
Who happen to be black
There are three potential victims approaching them.
1 White, 1 Asian and 1 Black.
All are dressed similarly,Jeans , Shirt, Sneakers and carrying a bag.

Which ones will be likely to offer more return for the same effort?

Wether Huntley reported it or not, if there were SAP files, I doubt they were acted on or,in this case, would still exist.
When I have been at the Police station, specifically Midrand, first question in any crime:
Do you know who attacked you?
If Not, Can you describe them?
Do you need a case number for Insurance?
If the answer to the above three questions is no, there wont be a record and if there is, it will get lost quickly.

The cases I was present at were:
A gang rape of my wifes 21 yo PA
The stabbing of my Gardener in a robbery of his wages. He survived.
The case number did'nt.
A young friend who got beaten up within an inch of his life.
two years later it was at the bottom of a pile of Brown unsolved case Files in the detectives office that stood amongst probably 10 other piles, all about knee high.

Lets look at how the SA Govt handles criticism.
Huntley? Racism
Semenya possible Gender ? Racism
Any criticism of corruption?
racism.

[JoziJoe]

Originally Posted by Daxk

Short question.
There are a Group of Criminals.
Who happen to be black
There are three potential victims approaching them.
1 White, 1 Asian and 1 Black.
All are dressed similarly,Jeans , Shirt, Sneakers and carrying a bag.

Which ones will be likely to offer more return for the same effort?

You will pardon my criticism but this is a very poor example of why some of the crime in SA is said to be driven by race. My guess is that your 3 potential victims stand an equal chance of getting attacked, just based on the fact that they are all carrying a bag, remember, there is a black middle class in SA these days also earning good money.

The SA Farm Murders, consisting mainly of Afrikaans speaking whites (Boers), well known for it's gore with no evidence of robbery is motivated by race. So is the torching of illegal black refugees in South Africa, no illegal refugee should suffer this kind of barbaric torture! Civilised countries deport refugees, they don't torch them to death! (those not already familiar with these incidents, you only have to google, I won't quote links & pictures as it is sickening!)

Having said that, I still remain convinced that the crime and violence, whether motivated by race or robbery, are merely symptoms of a much deeper rooted evil.