Will a non BEE person have problems working in S.A

[Thatch22]

Yes, I know what Freudian slip means. And yes I made a mistake. It must be chance!
And indeed Englisch is not my first lingo.

regards from a sunny SA
Annemieke

[Halo]

Originally Posted by Thatch22

Yes, I know what Freudian slip means. And yes I made a mistake. It must be chance!
And indeed Englisch is not my first lingo.

regards from a sunny SA
Annemieke

There you go then....

Regards from a sunny and safe OZ
Karl

[Darko]

Originally Posted by DannyBoy

Hello

I left S.A 16 years ago and have been wanting to return for the last two years.
I work in I.T (medical Insurance, Banking, Retail).

What is the work environment like these days for Non-Afirmative-Action (non BEE) candidates.

Will there be any hostility and jealousy, could you get attacked (Verbally or physically) at work or is there still a semblance of professionalism left in the corporate work place?.

What action can you take should you encounter any hostility, name calling or aggression?

Thanks for your help with this.

If you have skills in emand, you will be 100%. No hostility or any other rubbish that you mention.

[JaniceKing]

I left 10 years ago and wish to return to be with my family ( I have a baby grandaughter) does anyone know or can anyone offer advice or help as to how I can go about finding a job in Jo'burg in the Training industry.
I am a soft skills/mamagement/leadership trainer.
any help will be very gratefully recieved.
Janice King

Originally Posted by DannyBoy

Hello




I left S.A 16 years ago and have been wanting to return for the last two years.
I work in I.T (medical Insurance, Banking, Retail).

What is the work environment like these days for Non-Afirmative-Action (non BEE) candidates.

Will there be any hostility and jealousy, could you get attacked (Verbally or physically) at work or is there still a semblance of professionalism left in the corporate work place?.

What action can you take should you encounter any hostility, name calling or aggression?

Thanks for your help with this.

[JaniceKing]

I left 10 years ago and wish to return to be with my family ( I have a baby grandaughter) does anyone know or can anyone offer advice or help as to how I can go about finding a job in Jo'burg in the Training industry.
I am a soft skills/management/leadership trainer.
Any help will be very gratefully recieved.
Janice King

Originally Posted by DannyBoy

Hello




I left S.A 16 years ago and have been wanting to return for the last two years.
I work in I.T (medical Insurance, Banking, Retail).

What is the work environment like these days for Non-Afirmative-Action (non BEE) candidates.

Will there be any hostility and jealousy, could you get attacked (Verbally or physically) at work or is there still a semblance of professionalism left in the corporate work place?.

What action can you take should you encounter any hostility, name calling or aggression?

Thanks for your help with this.

[JoziJoe]

Originally Posted by DannyBoy

Hello

I left S.A 16 years ago and have been wanting to return for the last two years.
I work in I.T (medical Insurance, Banking, Retail).

What is the work environment like these days for Non-Afirmative-Action (non BEE) candidates.

Will there be any hostility and jealousy, could you get attacked (Verbally or physically) at work or is there still a semblance of professionalism left in the corporate work place?.

What action can you take should you encounter any hostility, name calling or aggression?

In 2005, BEE was still very prominent in IT Banking work environments. Most people don't realise that BEE, Black Economic Empowerment, (also known as Affirmative Action or Racism in Reverse) is an official policy enforced by legislation. If Employers don't employ a certain ratio of Blacks (excluding Coloureds or Asians) vs Whites at a given date, they cannot continue trading, it is as simple as that.

A lot of IT Banking Sectors were outsourced to private companies on contract basis. These private companies would then ensure correct ratio of Black vs White employees by merging with other businesses who employ black majorities.

So, as an outsourced IT specialist, you could find yourself transferred from corporate banking to contracting. Should your job "tip the ratio scales", you could face redundancy.

It brought about strict and very professional work ethics though, as a previously secure, corporate Banking IT employee you now became a service provider with an expiry date, a guest on your previous employers premises.

From that aspect I found the SA IT Corporate Banking environment highly demanding, politically correct and very professional, certainly more professional than overseas. Auckland New Zealand IT environments lack professionalism and work ethics such as racism in the workplace are appalling. The anti Asian sentiment is openly expressed in the workplace, aggressive racism on a level I never experienced in South Africa.

[jonathanb]

Why come back anyway, do you miss the crime, filth, poverty, corruption etc, etc. To answer your question, yes BEE will affect you simple as that. You will be overlooked for someone with less skills than yourself and if you are lucky enough to get a job you will not only be doing your job but more than likley also the job of your affirmative action boss who does not have a about what he really should be doing.

[DannyBoy]

Originally Posted by Halo

Cough Cough..... A change you will have? Secure something first!

Halo, do you think it's not a good idea to return to S.A?
I do not have a job there, or even a place to stay. Am trying to find a cheap furnished apartment in Cape Town from which to conduct my jobsearch.
Do you think living there would be pretty bad?
I've been away from S.A since April 1993.

Have been thinking of heading back since my sister died of cancer.

Thanks
Dan

[bryan buys]

hi guys

I have been live in the UK for 6 years and think that you may work harder in SA but there is much better regarding working ethics. SA do have shortage of skills in some disciplines.

I am currently looking to go back in the the next 1 to 2 years.

good luck for the job hunt

regards bryan

[Halo]

Originally Posted by bryan buys

hi guys

I have been live in the UK for 6 years and think that you may work harder in SA but there is much better regarding working ethics.

How so? (if I understood your sentence correctly)