Relocating to Johannesburg

[Daxk]

Arnaud, You obviously have a comprehension problem,I assume English is not your first language.
my post to Vette was in a context of moving to CT and apart from the fact that I used to spend one wek a month in CT on business, as its many years ago I dont tend to comment much about current status of living in the Cape.

Vette obviously understood the context of the post as this was his reply"
"Hi Daxk,
Sure, I know exactly what you mean, and I know that crime and violence will search you out.
Being in the 'safer' areas, don't give you safety, as some of the bad guys will follow you to your nice house and work out your routine.
After a few days of establishing your routine, they will plan the ambush, and there ain't much you can do about it.
Give the keys over, empty your pockets, give over the watch, rings, everything, and try to keep the attackers as peaceful as possible by giving them everything they can see.
Perhaps they wont shoot you then, perhaps.
I know, it is part of SA. and it isn't going to change any time soon.
Perhaps to carry a firearm, is a good idea, or a bad idea, in so much they could kill you with your own gun.
If you do carry, then you really have to be prepared to use it, because if you draw, and hesitate, then you may have lost.
It is a sad fact of CT that gun society values life so cheaply.

Any way, onto the brighter things."

as to your comments, are you sure you are'nt being paid to try and minimise the Crime in Jhbg?
That would be a far more likely scenario.

[Daxk]

Irishlout,Just a pity that the Horror Stories I dredge up happen to be fact.
Thats your problem, you obviously did'nt do enough research,and now someones raining on your parade.
I happen to report on fact, you dont, you are desparately trying to conceal reality.
Told you, I dont care wether you stay or go, I prefer it if you stay.
I hope you make it through whatever period you spend in SA safely,there is a strong possibility you will.
But its your responsibility, and if (god Forbid) something should go wrong, its also your responsibility for exposing others to danger.
As to your and others insults, they dont affect me, I stopped worrying about what others thought of me a long time ago.
Its just a pity as all it shows is a lack of manners and sometimes intelligence.
As I challenged SABrit, so do I you.
prove me wrong.
Until then.

[SABrits]

And I am behind that one. This is not a site to vent your statistics. South Africa has a very bright future, like many countries. We are a friendly nation who opens doors to guests in our country, whose children have a broader understanding and are very open minded to all races. This is something which they can take with them anywhere in the world. And the day I retire, South Africa will be a choice in that, for all the good reasons.

I help people everyday relocate to all parts of the world, and the one consistency is, be open minded to your new culture and be aware. Talk to your neighbours, and visit expat sites. Presently, anyone going to SA, I would not recommend to this site, due to the negativity here. Their companies need them to go, to transfer knowledge. This they do if their families are willing and safe. Here they would learn the opposite, and the company suffers, which means economy suffers as well. Which ultimately means SA does not benefit!

[Daxk]

SABrit,is part of your business sourcing people for SA Companies?
If so,then you have a vested interest in only offering good news.

[Irish Lout]

Daxk, I find it disapointing that you resort to insulting someones use of English, and in fact your subsequent posts are themselves littered with spelling errors. Racist, or perhaps just hypocritical..?

In previous posts you were also complaining about people "insulting" you, something you also seem to be pretty quick and handy at yourself.

You also try to boil everything down to "statistics" as if these justify and backup your experiences. Statistics, as we all know can be interpretated any way you want - from the source you chose to take them from to how you view them, but as we all know " there are 3 kind of lies - lies, damned lies and statistics".

I dont spend my time researching SA statistics, I base my outlook on how I experience every day life here in Johannesburg and from my interactions with friends here, listening to their experiences. Not something you can do stuck 20,000km away sipping coffee in some remote village of Ireland.

I also find it downright cowardly and despicable you try to play on fear and use my family against me " But its your responsibility, and if (god Forbid) something should go wrong, its also your responsibility for exposing others to danger'

Do you really think I would bring my family down here if we hadnt done the research and felt comfortable to do so. The fact my wife was happy to come here and is enjoying life in Johannesburg with my 3 year old daughter simply proves that people can have a normal life here - go search a statistic for that.

One last point - SA brits says he is relocating people to "all parts of the world" so why would he have a vested interest in promoting SA above other countries?

Daxk, every bit of drivel you post on here simply undermines your evaporating credibility and exposes you as the hypocritical, scare mongering bully that you are.

SA is not the safest place in the world - noone on heres saying that, but nor is it the worst as you try to make it out to be. With common sense, being aware and practical, living in the right areas, it can be managed and you can carve out quite a good lifestyle here. Perhaps a better lifestyle than you seem to be living as your only interest in life seems to be scaring people on these forums...??

[arnaud]

Daxk, english is not my mother tongue indeed. I will try to do my best to avoid any confusion.

Daxk, seriously, I think you have a problem :
South Africa xenophobic attacks continue. | 6000 miles from civilisation...
Want to know what South Africa is really like? | 6000 miles from civilisation...
Advice sought - finding work etc in JHB area : British Expat Discussion Forum
returning home but what about my loose ends? : British Expat Discussion Forum

Somebody here said that if you were burning bridges you needed to be a strong swimmer.
i'm a bit curious as to how a fellow Saffa could saddle you with 12k debt ,depart and you dont post his pic all over facebook youtube etc.

Do whatever you want, but I dont think SA is going to have a future for you unless your name happens to be either isixhosa or isizulu
Google Snowy Smiths letter to Mike sutcliffe.
Snowy might be over the top sometimes but 7000 photo's is pretty telling regarding "Debbin by the Sea"

You will be back or somewheres else and having the possibility of a a skipped bad debt later from the UK may well affect your entrance to other Countries such as oz

I think you are racist, according to these posts. But it is your right yo be racist, I won't blame you on that. But please get a life in Ireland, do whatever you can do for this country and let South Africa be.

[Daxk]

Irishlout, the word is comprehension.
Arnaud keeps on misunderstanding either by design or because English may not be his/her first Language.
Insulting? I was pointing out that the insults(including those you hand out so readily) are against the rules of this and most other forums.
Statistics? not at all,the statistics actually favour the fact that you wil probably not experience any violent crime in SA.
If however you choose to call the SAPS Crime statistics into doubt, I would agree with you, but only because i think they are under-reported.
And I base my views on my personal experiences as well as on personal interaction I have on almost a daily basis with my Jhbg Office as well as Family.
Obviously, I also read news24,iol.co.za, Sunday Times print edition, M&G, Financial Mail and I love Hayibu and Noseweek..

You too seem to have a credibility problem, I do not wish your family ill.
I am responsible for my childs safety, so are you for yours.
I am reminding you of the fact.
SABrit is big enough to answer for him/herself.

My credibility is not in question, unlike you,I'm merely reporting fact (Again)
I am not trying to sell a dream merely commenting on reality.

As to my time, its mine, to do with as I see fit, yes, I chose a quiet little village as had I stayed in SA I would now be living in Dullstroom and Ballito or some other quiet little vilage near to an Airport.
Bored?? not at all, I just wish the internet had been around when I was young,its the greatest asset to research ever.

Now really,this is going around in circles, I live in a similar house to the one I own in SA,on the corner of a farm, 10 minutes from a very good little school for my daughter, I have a very wide friendship base, lots of hobbies, two sweet little businesses that help keep my hand in, why should I bother scaring people when its in my interest that they go to SA and take up the positions for which the Govt and AA are unable to fill.

think about it, without the young foreigners coming in, SA will collapse.

What I do ask is that they go with open eyes, as I did when researched Oz,the UK, the States and Ireland as places for me to raise a daughter and retire to.
Glad I chose Ireland.

[Daxk]

Arnaud, you are entitled to your opinion.
Btw, what race am I?

[Daxk]

Originally Posted by arnaud

Daxk, english is not my mother tongue indeed. I will try to do my best to avoid any confusion.

Daxk, seriously, I think you have a problem :
South Africa xenophobic attacks continue. | 6000 miles from civilisation...
Want to know what South Africa is really like? | 6000 miles from civilisation...
Advice sought - finding work etc in JHB area : British Expat Discussion Forum
returning home but what about my loose ends? : British Expat Discussion Forum


I think you are racist, according to these posts. But it is your right yo be racist, I won't blame you on that. But please get a life in Ireland, do whatever you can do for this country and let South Africa be.

Hell Arnaud, there are a lot more posts than that.
yes,6k did tear me a new one on his Blog, but my point remains, shock Horror,front page news when they burnt that poor Mocambican
Front pages all over the World.
They burn and stone people often in the locations, sometimes for being "Witches" sometimes because they caught them thieving, and the total for Xenophobia was two days "Normal" at 50 per day.
where was the fuss about that?

Aids is the most easily preventable disease, "Somebody " has to pay for free anti-retrovirals.
Yes, I am still a tax payer in SA, therefore I have a right to comment on how tax money is spent.
If the anti-retrovirals keeps someone as a productive member of society, I'm all for it, but if it prolongs the agony, if it keeps children out of school to look after sick parents,if it bankrupts the health system ,then feel there is a time for Hospice.

AS to the other two, I cant access them, the lass in the one you have quoted was going to be affected by Affirmative Action if I recall.
Affirmative Action was a very good way of redressing some of the injustices of the past.
I do not however consider someone who has qualified with the same Degree as everyone else, or who has grown up in private chools with wealthy Parents as being "disadvantaged"

I think 15 years down the road, AA needs to be re-visited,
As to your accusations of racism, what do think of this amendment to the SA Constitution?

Section 9
"Discrimination on one or more of the grounds listed in subsection (3) is unfair unless it is established that the discrimination is fair."

As to my interest in SA, the land of my birth, where my Mother, siblings, lots of neices and nephews still live,
A Country I happen to love, thats my interest bud,its economics,its politics its future.
You dont have the right to dictate.

[chinasing]

People people please enough already, I take full responsibility for participating in this on going war of words and I apologise. What is the real reason that we come to this site on a daily basis, is it to bash one another or to provide help and support to those looking for it. True there has been a lot of negativity going back and forth by certain individuals, but can we learn to agree to disagree. It is my hope that we can build up this great nation South Africa to become a country that has a reputation for it's wonderful economy, friendly people, and a great place to live and thrive.
Every country has it's good and bad to it but can we move forward and start seeing what could be and I understand that there is always 3 sides to any story and we have already heard two of them, now all that is left is the truth and can we hear that side for a change, unbiased truth.
I moved to S.A 8 years ago and reside in Sandton, and have never had a first hand experience of any violent crime, not one break in, nor have any of my family and friends yet when I lived in the U.S. I was mugged, car broken into, house vandalised. But does that mean since nothing happened to me or anyone I know that it's not happening to someone else? Of course not but at the end of the day it's all about using sound judgement, listening to the locals and not being consumed by fear!!!
Please for the last time can we at least respect one another and have a sense of compassion to want to help and not scare off people from so many wonderful opportunities in this great nation...thank you..