Is SA the crime centre of the world???

[Slim]

I am one of those who said I will never leave. I love South Africa. It is one of the most beautiful countries in the world and one of a very few that has all five ecosystems.

However, watching my country fall to pieces is heartbreaking to say the least and the rate of "decay" is accelerating at a hell of a speed.

What most of the blacks forget is that the Afrikaner was oppressed by the British with their wives and children left to die and starve in concentration camps, their farms burnt to the ground, all their worldly possesions destroyed. But they rose from the ashes and in less than a single generation restored their livelyhood. But conveniently this is left out of the history books (worldwide) and we are instead told to feel sory for the black population and appologise profusely for the rest of our lives. Even if you had no part in their "oppresion".

South Africas infrastructure is falling apart. Nepotism is the order of the day. Lazy civil servants are there only collect a paycheck and nothing else. Just walk into any government building South Africa expecting friendly, or for that matter, ANY service from their staff.

I firmly believe that this country can be restored to its former glory and be a world power that can make it's mark and a true leader of Africa. But constantly living in the past, looking for someone else to blame for YOUR hardships, and never doing anything is the easy way out, and will never make this vision of South Africa (and indeed Africa) come to life. Apartheid ended in 1990. Not 1994 as every body is told. That is 19 years ago. Yet today you get 16 year olds that plunder, rape, steal, murder and blame it all on the apartheid system.

South Africa had 89,000 commercial farms in 1994. Today, we have less that 11,900 active commercial farms in operation.

South Africa had one of the 5 most feared militaries in the world in 1990. That with an arms embrago in place. Today we sit with a HIV infected military force that wont be able to defend against even the tiniest of an attack. We have bought R60bn (about $10bn) worth of military equipment and not a single member of the South African military can operate these craft, or train others to operate these craft.

South Africa is falling apart because the "majority" is clinging to the past and using it as their scapegoat whenever their incompetence is revealed, or they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Jacob Zuma himself said that he did not join the struggle to be poor.

This is South Africa without mentioning the horrible crime rate, the total disregard for even the most basic of laws, and absolutely no regard for traffic laws.

Dammit. I go to an overseas forum to ESCAPE South African politics and you lot draw me right back in...

My 2c on the matter. I'm off to a happier thread...

[Martinw]

Originally Posted by Tree3000

There is one thing that I hate about SA, its government inability to get any sort if a grip on a spiraling completely out of control crime rate. I would have never left the country, I love it, but family comes first and for the sake of my family we had to leave. I was basically forced to leave because I was left without a choice. I was a victim of a hijacking and thank G-d my family wasn’t with me at the time. Everyone I know, and I am not exaggerating, everyone has experienced crime first hand, it’s not if its when, and I am not prepared to sit around and wait for it to come and destroy my family. At the end of the day everyone has been talking about this bright future on the horizon in the 90s, its 2008 and less and less people talk about now, its just doesn’t look like there is any place out there where it can magically just appear from.
If someone complains he is automatically branded a racist. The racist card has been thrown in peoples faces for the last 14 years and it is still a standard excuse for anything that goes wrong. Affirmative action and BEE has been around for a while, even though I personally believe that it is completely racist, basically a legal version of racism, still everything is white’s fault. The white’s are the minority after all.
Also constant livings behind high walls, constant worry about every noise you hear in the night, don’t feel secure in your own home. What kind of life is that?

TREE3000 I agrre with you and could not have said it better myself. I dont think any SOuth African(Well at least 99.9%) that is living in another country if crime, fear, future for family and kids was not the reason. A lot of people see to say we are cowards, but yet people who leave to go to Hollywood or to try something new are prob called explorers or adventurers. I think any person prob longs to go back in time to the time and place we know, but sadly that is and will be never again. Some people might think I am sour only writing negative things about SA, but seriously is that not the truth. Living in AUS I am now realizing that maybe the world does not know what goes on there( Well I dont see any of it on TV, and Perth has a large SA community) so isnt it time to tell people the truth and let them know. I am not really talking to some of the pro South Africans who cannot find a fault, but rather to unsespected forreigners perhaps, who might have heard all these wonderfull stories from someone else thinking it might be a good country. It also appers that a lot of people are a bit afraid to bring upp the race issue. Why? is it not fact? Is it not fact that the blacks walk around at night in neighbourhoods, instead of sleeping, breaking into houses, singeling out white people, raping and killing. Hijacking cars, majority white prob, shooting people, torturing and raping white women and children. I know they do it to their own as well, but that is thier problem. White guys dont go around the shacks raping black women( who would want to) and killing their people. Arent you allowe to go to work, earn a living, look after your family and keep them safe. Well obviously if you are in SA NO. So who still wants to say that SA is such a beautiful country. Nice areas, For sure, I We loved the Drakensberg, was our favourite, but living in the suburbs, working in the city, Is that what you guys see, Beauty? We left in 2005, and I am pretty sure I remmber how filty Durban became, festive season the masses would get together on North Beach for 2 weeks, sleep, shower, in evryones view, urinated where they wanted, mugged people. Is that what younguys call beauty or wonderfull. And this was 3 years ago. I do not even want to imagine what it is like now. Well all I can say if that is what you see, i feel sorry for you, because that must be that your standards have dropped to their level. I am siorry, but I have my standards, they are high and I maintain them here in my peacefull quiet suburb of Mandurah, Western Australia. Please just dont try to convince people to stay or move their families there because you either like or accepted to live in filth.