I never thought of South Africa

[writer201]

Originally Posted by synthia

Even though I lived and worked there (in Welkom, of all places) for two years in the early 80's, I never thought of going back there to live. Now that I think of it, I can see the appeal of living somewhere like Capetown or Durbin. I don't think I'd go back to Welkom.

When I was there, in addition to the obvious issue of apartheid, Welkom was a booming community with a lot of ex-patriate workers. In the two years I was there, I had one employee from the Netherlands, two from England, and one from Israel.

I'm sure Welkom wouldn't be like that now, but I wonder about Durban and Capetown.

You have to think about work opportunities. SAfrica has in place positive discrimination which favours the native black population particulalry women and you might struggle to find a job. I have had friend who were retrenched and struggled to find work, many indeed have left and now live abroad. Safrica isn't what it used to be hence why I no longer live there.

[writer201]

Originally Posted by attagirl

I have never been there, let alone think about moving there. But your information really peaks my interest in what they have to offer. What else can you tell us about these areas.

Take my advice and stay away because opportuities are few and far between. Don't t let the thought of sunshine in this case tempt you. The country has mnay problems not just crime and with the recent r=election of Jacob Zuma as ANC leader the future of Safrica could be more another Zimbabwe. Already 100's of white farmer are murdered in SAFRICA and what is the Government reaction - nothing becasue the Government do not want to tarnish their image - stay safe stay away.

[writer201]

Take my advice and stay away because work opportunities are few and far between. Don't let the thought of sunshine in this case tempt you. The country has many problems; it is not just crime. With the recent election of Jacob Zuma to the post of ANC leader the future of Safrica could create another Zimbabwe. This man has heavy leftward leaning politics. A sad situation in Safrica now is the 100's of white farmers who are murdered in SAFRICA so their land can be taken back and used by black farmers who have absolutley no skills at all. Just take a look at all the postings on Youtube and decide from there where is Safrica going. What is the Government reaction to all these murders? - nothing because the Government do not want to tarnish their image abroad - stay safe stay away. Answer me this - if Safrica is so great why has the white population since the early 1980s shrunk by over a third (including myself) and why are white Sarfican's still leaving country to seek new lives and opportunities abroad?

[gkloken]

Oh dear can we do something about spell check here? Are you positive you came from South Africa?
Now where would you get your facts about the "100's of farmers killed for their land .....etc? "
Amazing how negative you are when you are not here right now. I have moved back to South Africa by choice after living in the USA for several years and man am I glad I did!
Wherever I go I see signs up for job vacancies and I see a perfect balance of black and white workers in shops, restaurants, businesses. You name it . My two sons did not find it difficult to get well paid work.
As a matter of fact within one week. I don't need to find work, but even so as a "white woman" I had several offers too!
I travelled to Cape Town this past festive season and all I saw on the roads were all the very expensive types of vehicles, 4x4's with trailers and tenders as in Jet skis, boats, quad bikes, bikes , caravans. You name it! There is a very friendly and relaxed atmosphere in most parts of the country. White people are living well and comfortable over all. The same with a large percentage of blacks and other Ethnic groups.
I would say South Africa is a country of abundance for all who want to work.

[Stravinsky]

Originally Posted by gkloken

Oh dear can we do something about spell check here? Are you positive you came from South Africa?
Now where would you get your facts about the "100's of farmers killed for their land .....etc? "
Amazing how negative you are when you are not here right now. I have moved back to South Africa by choice after living in the USA for several years and man am I glad I did!
Wherever I go I see signs up for job vacancies and I see a perfect balance of black and white workers in shops, restaurants, businesses. You name it . My two sons did not find it difficult to get well paid work.
As a matter of fact within one week. I don't need to find work, but even so as a "white woman" I had several offers too!
I travelled to Cape Town this past festive season and all I saw on the roads were all the very expensive types of vehicles, 4x4's with trailers and tenders as in Jet skis, boats, quad bikes, bikes , caravans. You name it! There is a very friendly and relaxed atmosphere in most parts of the country. White people are living well and comfortable over all. The same with a large percentage of blacks and other Ethnic groups.
I would say South Africa is a country of abundance for all who want to work.

Wow! All the press reports about people being murdered and raped and attacked in their own homes are wrong then are they? And theres no problem with the new leader of the ANC being linked with corruption?

[writer201]

Explain to me why so many Safrican's have left the country including me? why does my brother in law sleep with a gun next to him and why does their house have internal security to block the bedrooms off from the rest of the house if intruders break in? My sister and husband live in Edenvale within a gated community due to the amount of hi-jackings and murders within the area.
There is a multitude of Safrican's here in the UK and I have met many living in Europe and not one has anything positive to say. One asked me where were my bullet wounds when I said I used to live in Kensington, JHB (where I attended Jeppe High School for Boys). The Safrican government does not want to report the farm murders because it will ruin their image overseas. That information hitting the wider world could lose them the 2012 Football World Cup which is currently destined to be a flop unless the workers get the fingers pulled out. Remember how devious the white National Government was by with holding information and using the press to their advantage - well the colour of the Safrican government may have changed but not much else has?. If you have any doubt about the murders of white farmers go to You Tube where there are plenty of posted reports to enlighten you. Also as another post here has mentioned Jacob Zuma is corrupt and that is the sort of person the safrican electorate have elected as a potential future president. Just goes to show the mindset of of certain Safrican's. If he becomes president where will safrica go then? If you haven't started packing your bags yet I'd advise you start doing so . . .

[Stravinsky]

Originally Posted by writer201

Explain to me why so many Safrican's have left the country including me? why does my brother in law sleep with a gun next to him and why does their house have internal security to block the bedrooms off from the rest of the house if intruders break in? My sister and husband live in Edenvale within a gated community due to the amount of hi-jackings and murders within the area.
There is a multitude of Safrican's here in the UK and I have met many living in Europe and not one has anything positive to say. One asked me where were my bullet wounds when I said I used to live in Kensington, JHB (where I attended Jeppe High School for Boys). The Safrican government does not want to report the farm murders because it will ruin their image overseas. That information hitting the wider world could lose them the 2012 Football World Cup which is currently destined to be a flop unless the workers get the fingers pulled out. Remember how devious the white National Government was by with holding information and using the press to their advantage - well the colour of the Safrican government may have changed but not much else has?. If you have any doubt about the murders of white farmers go to You Tube where there are plenty of posted reports to enlighten you. Also as another post here has mentioned Jacob Zuma is corrupt and that is the sort of person the safrican electorate have elected as a potential future president. Just goes to show the mindset of of certain Safrican's. If he becomes president where will safrica go then? If you haven't started packing your bags yet I'd advise you start doing so . . .

Maybe the poster knows something about the Homecoming Revolution

[scazman]

Originally Posted by synthia

quicksilver and others -

If you want to contact someone on the forum who offers more information, you can use the private message (PM) system. Just click on their ID and choose 'send private message'.

And welcome to the forum.

I wanted to send you a private message but that facility doesn't appear to be available. Perphaps as I'm a newbie on this forum?

I am interested in finding out more about Welkom and I note that you used to live there. I have an interview for a job in Welkom but I know little about the place or the surrounding area. I have lived in Botswana though so I do know something of what to expect of SA per se.

My main concern revolves around the fact that I am white British and my wife is a black Zambian. We have one mixed race child. Is Welkom (or anywhere within 30km's) condusive to a mixed race family? I am worried that I might take my family into a hotbed of intolerance!!!

I am also interested to know about the security situation around Welkom. I suspect that it's a different world to Jozie, Pretoria or Midrand and probably relatively safe but tbh I am just guessing!

Any advice from ff's would be gratefully received.

[writer201]

To a previous thread I am well aware of the Homecoming revolution and I hear the attempts to get skilled workers back is not working and it is Eskom who are trying to get skilled workers back. Seems as if the re will be plenty of power cuts to come for a few years yet. My sister and borther in law were recently here in the UK and as near as they both are to the age of fifty they have decided to quit Safrica as they feel they can no longer live there. They are working longer hours, earning less money, are continually stressed and the cost of living is soaring. I have heard Safican's say the cost of living in SA is now higher than it is here in the UK. I have recently made contact with a friend who is 48 and has emigrated to New Zealand. Scazman do your self a favour and stay away. The recent well publicised problems of xenophobia should tell you about the feelings of black South African's to outsiders in particular black people.

[synthia]

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