Cost of Living in Cape Town area

[Martinw]

Originally Posted by Daxk

Moeshen, I dont know wether you have children yet or not, I lived there for 54 years and it is a beautiful place great scenery, weather, Friendly people etc.
Most of the friends who have children who are still there are leaving as soon they can sell their Houses,(about a 1/3 of all House sales were due to Immigration according to the Banks)
I have a 9 year old daughter and if I won the Euro Lottery and could live anywhere I wanted with the same security as the President of SA, the last place I would take her is SA.
The Risks are just too great, the fear, when I lived there and now go back for Holidays is just too great, Its no use having a great lifestyle when you cant go out anymore.
The only people I know who are defending SA's crime rate and who are still in SA , either cant get out or are still young enough to think it wont happen to me.
It may not, ever, but if it does, its a biggie.

Daxk I could not agree with you more. Everyday we long back for the days we spent at Drakensberg in thew holidays, and also just the way we South Africans are or lived, BUT then that was in the past. I am litterally so scared to even think of ever going back to SA. I just cannot believe that people are still happy to live there. We have friends that are pretty well off and think it is agreat place, because they think they are safe and live like millionares. No thank you, i would rather live on the poverty line here in OZ than think that I have lifestyle in SA. Anyway even financially with only a normal job we are heaps better off here in AUS and there is no dogs barking( because they have no reason to) no police/ambulance sirens. Just peace and Quiet. We live 1.5 km form the beach and on certain nights I can hear the waves crash( and the waves are tiny) and I spend absolutely no time worrying wheteher my wife or two daughters are going to get raped tonight or not, but am rather worrying where we should take the kids for the holiday. I think what is worst is that there are certain people that even recommend SA to forreigners. I never want someones wife or daughters rape in SA on my concious after I recommended it. It is sad to talk like that about your birthplace, but then again, my birthplace was not a country full of rape, murder and violence.

[Martinw]

[quote=moeshen;88997]

Originally Posted by Martinw

\i can not understand you would want to go to SA if you can come to AUS. We lived in SA and I would not put my feet there with all the violent crime and living in fear. Anybody that goes there should really think about waht you want out of life. I you want to live in fear of being raped, tortured, murdered, kids in horrible schools then go right ahead. Personally OZ was the best move we ever made. I almost want to think that if all the people in the world knew what was going on there not one of you would move there, or at least that is what I hope. Because I cannot believe that someone would move there if they did know.



Your comment is grossly unfair... I totally disagree with you... You over exagerating this issues. I will go back to SA anyday.. You never find a place with better quality of life anywhere in the world.. The only reason why I left was for career development and once I have achieved my goal of being exposed to working overseas, I will be back home in SA. The schools are great.. not sure what schools you are refering to ?
As for crime... You will be fooling yourself if you think that OZ has no crime...Its all there but not exposed as in SA.. I have many friends living there and say that crime is there as it is in any other part of the world...

It so sad that you discourage people from entering our country and hope whoever reads your thread takes it with a pinch of salt..

Grossly unfair and exagerating - UM maybe you should say that to all the white women and girls being raped by blacks. To all the white families being raped, tortured and murdered. Tell them(not me)in what a beautifull wonderfull country thery are living.Maybe you should take your head out of the sand and open your eyes. And just for interest, if it is such a "wonderfull country these days" why is it that you need to go somewhere else "for career development". It is very nice to live somewehere else without the fear( I know I am doing it) but I do not tell people how wonderfull it is there, when I am not even there. You are prob some snot nose kid, who went to the UK like everyone else, to earn Pounds, but still tell people to go to SA. ( only read now you are in Saudi - What trying to earn millions so you can have the fancy big house with all these securities and all that stuff which normal working families cant afford, let alone these days not even be able to find a job, because the incompetent black gets first choice and then goes -"Eish, i got no clue, but the money is good" BTW got told this personally by a black admitting it to me

Agreed Aus, NZ has its crime, and we all know that is part of life yopu can never escape. But it is not violent and a white person does not have to live in fear of a black person. I learnt this morning that they broke into someones house in the neighbourhood( 1 in 10 months WOW such a violent place I live in) and only a wallet stolen. Um did I mention just a wallet stolen, with no one even knowing - had it been in Durb, JHB, CPT - it would have been - Bugger the wallet, here is a nice white lady and pretyy white daughters to rape, torture and murder and then only ask for guns. You want to tell me that is not happening in SA. Oh yes I forgot, you dont live there either. And obviously you have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about, about Aus, because here if something happens it is big news. They prob mention every death on tv and now I am talking about some young kid killing himself in a V8 or something, so when someone gets murdered you def here about it.

I just feel sorry for people who listens to you and go over there and then get raped and muredered. It would feel like I have signed someones death warrant recommending a place I KNOW you have a more than excellent chance being a victim of violence. Why should the world not here about what is going on there.
Why should the world not here about blacks killing whites, because of hatred, fun, jealousy etc? Why should someone have to live in fear, in their country of birth, when they have obeyed the law all their life, not harmed anyone, just asking to be able to lead anormal life? So you answer everybody why you think a white person like that has to be subjected to rape and murder? Do you think that is fair? If your answer is yes, then there has got to be something seriously wrong with you.

[nessjoy]

I am an American living in Cape Town - I am here wholly be choice and could leave at any time, and I can honestly say it is the most beautiful place in the world and there is no where else I would rather be (I have lived in Brazil, US, UK, Australia, Germany, and Canada and traveled extensively throughout the world).

You guys who are ruled by fear are missing out on life.

I would recommend living in Bantry Bay or Fresnaye if you can afford it. Definitely be in town. Centry City is too far out and VERY windy!!!

[tompitman]

This guy Daxk is on a mission to stop people moving to SA. I cant talk for elsewhere in South Africa, but I have lived in Cape Town for six years with a wife and two small children and have never felt threatened, and nor have any of my wide circle of expat friends. Maybe we've just been lucky, and I hope I am not tempting fate. The risk is real and violent crime far worse than in London for instance, but as Moeshen says, keep things in perspective. Its a really fantastic place to live and thousands of expats will testify to this. If Daxk hates the place so much or is so convinved he will be murdered I am not sure why he returns so regularly on holiday!

To answer the question on cost of living, I reckon it roughly works out as 1/3 of the cost of living in the UK.

[Daxk]

Originally Posted by tompitman

This guy Daxk is on a mission to stop people moving to SA. I cant talk for elsewhere in South Africa, but I have lived in Cape Town for six years with a wife and two small children and have never felt threatened, and nor have any of my wide circle of expat friends. Maybe we've just been lucky, and I hope I am not tempting fate. The risk is real and violent crime far worse than in London for instance, but as Moeshen says, keep things in perspective. Its a really fantastic place to live and thousands of expats will testify to this. If Daxk hates the place so much or is so convinved he will be murdered I am not sure why he returns so regularly on holiday!

To answer the question on cost of living, I reckon it roughly works out as 1/3 of the cost of living in the UK.

Tompitman.
Kindly quote where I have told people not to move to SA.

Kindly show where I have shown hate.

I dont return on Holiday, Tompitman.
I still have investments there.
I have a mother who lives there.
I'm not convinced I'll be murdered you idiot,
I removed a real threat to my then 5 year old daughters life as well a my wifes
if I testified against the 4 young criminals who spent an hour in my house with my wife and I while my daughter hid in the bushes when they were searching for her.

so when you have walked in my shoes and shown this to your wife, then pass comment.
in the meantime, will you take personal responsibility for your comments?