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There are always differing points of views, and just because you dont agree with it doesn't mean he is not right from his point of view.

As a complete neutral, why do I see all the crime reported on SKY, the murders etc, the power outages etc .... is it all made up?
No , but it's passed on by a media with an agenda.

I mean temporary power shortages (1 hour every few weeks ?) are such a non -story. Only the south african media could turn it into the coming of armageddon. There is high crime but i assure you it affects the poorest of the poor in the form of drunken knife/gun fighting and the likes. Those are the people that end up in hospital on the weekends.....it's a socio economic problem affecting the poorest 5% of the country. South African white people present the story as if it's them that are affected mainly...pure bullsh!t ! If the story was presented in the context that poor black people in south africa living in high crime environment i'd fully agree...but don't try and twist it to meet your agenda of selling this sob story that white south africans now suffer under the ANC...it's just not true.

It's being used to try and justify white rule as if the country is going to hell under the black government. The problem is this story gives tourists and foriegn inbvestors a very distorted picture of South Africa and in effect perpetuates the situation of poor socio-economic conditions. Just think more critically when you hear these things.

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No , but it's passed on by a media with an agenda.

I mean temporary power shortages (1 hour every few weeks ?) are such a non -story. Only the south african media could turn it into the coming of armageddon. There is high crime but i assure you it affects the poorest of the poor in the form of drunken knife/gun fighting and the likes. Those are the people that end up in hospital on the weekends.....it's a socio economic problem affecting the poorest 5% of the country. South African white people present the story as if it's them that are affected mainly...pure bullsh!t ! If the story was presented in the context that poor black people in south africa living in high crime environment i'd fully agree...but don't try and twist it to meet your agenda of selling this sob story that white south africans now suffer under the ANC...it's just not true.

It's being used to try and justify white rule as if the country is going to hell under the black government. The problem is this story gives tourists and foriegn inbvestors a very distorted picture of South Africa and in effect perpetuates the situation of poor socio-economic conditions. Just think more critically when you hear these things.
So everyone is making it up?? The SA media, the news reports, the world press?
And forgive me, the poor don't matter then?

As I said, I'm a neutral just trying to make sense of it
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So everyone is making it up?? The SA media, the news reports, the world press?
And forgive me, the poor don't matter then?

As I said, I'm a neutral just trying to make sense of it
Don't put words in my mouth. Not making it up...misrepresenting it.

Crime happens the gross majority of the time to the poorest 5% of the country. It's not a case of it not mattering , it's a case of how this information is distorted to give the idea that the whole country is a war zone , when it's only a tiny sectors of the population. The gross majority of South Africa is perfectly safe to live in and in fact fantastic to live in. Keeps things in perspective.

I fully believe we ought to do more about crime the poorest areas. We need to uplift these people with jobs and investment. That will never happen if we all run around giving this distorted picture of South Africa as a hell hole. It's not a hell hole...it's a gorgeous , great country to live in with heaps of potential. you just need to ask yourself if you're honestly interested in seeing it reach this potential , or if you'd much rather see it fail so that you can affirmate your beliefs about black people.
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Absolutely Jinaidy, Bovine rebel is correct, hop on a plane and get over there, if you really have a problem bovinerebel (apt nickname that) will obviously put you up?
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Absolutely Jinaidy, Bovine rebel is correct, hop on a plane and get over there, if you really have a problem bovinerebel (apt nickname that) will obviously put you up?
Sure why not. Come on over !
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I once saw a perfect card for this occasion,it said if you try and teach a pig to sing,it will irritate the pig and annoy the listener.
I have changed my mind, from now on I'm going to recommend everyone I come across here should move to SA immediately, that they wont need anything, that crime only happens\to the poorest 5 % of the nations,
Bovine rebel must be correct, its all a big conspiracy by the Afrikaners who own all the media and misrepresent the crime figures.its all lies, Theres no unemployment,there's only crime if you stagger into a squatter camp, Bovine rebel will probably tell you that you will only get raped if you dress suggestively too.
The Police service is fantastic,you'll be met at the airport by Home Affairs who will put you up in a luxury hotel while you decide which top notch Hospital matches your personality.

think you should all go.

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I once saw a perfect card for this occasion,it said if you try and teach a pig to sing,it will irritate the pig and annoy the listener.
I have changed my mind, from now on I'm going to recommend everyone I come across here should move to SA immediately, that they wont need anything, that crime only happens\to the poorest 5 % of the nations,
Bovine rebel must be correct, its all a big conspiracy by the Afrikaners who own all the media and misrepresent the crime figures.its all lies, Theres no unemployment,there's only crime if you stagger into a squatter camp, Bovine rebel will probably tell you that you will only get raped if you dress suggestively too.
The Police service is fantastic,you'll be met at the airport by Home Affairs who will put you up in a luxury hotel while you decide which top notch Hospital matches your personality.

think you should all go.
Funny. I'm an intelligent person , so I can tell you are being sarcastic. But that's actually the most rational thing you've said on here. It's not really close the the truth , but it's much closer to the truth than the "you will surely get raped and killed version".

Drop the stuff about "no employment" and "home affairs" and exchange "conspiracy" for "sensationalism , misrepresentation and hyperbole". The police are average at best and some hospitals are below par (par generally is very high in south africa anyway). But mostly you were spot on. come...it is perfectly safe if you are lucky enough to not have to live in a squatter camp amongst the most poor and desperate of the population.
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Absolutely, Bovinerebel,I told you, I've had a Damascus, Its as Paul has said over on Homecoming revolution, Thousands are streaming home, Skills shortage was just another Fallacy, Its paradise.
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Absolutely, Bovinerebel,I told you, I've had a Damascus, Its as Paul has said over on Homecoming revolution, Thousands are streaming home, Skills shortage was just another Fallacy, Its paradise.
It is paradise to me an millions of others. If you don't like it , just leave. I'll drive you to the airport. We really don't need you here if you've got nothing positive to contribute.
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No Need, Bovinerebel, I have left, and my business interests will be leaving soon too.Pity!
Unfotunately, my mother is too old to leave and start afresh so she has had to put up with some of the problems.
Some of my staff who I speak to everyday in SA are leaving too,Unfortunately, as are a ot of my friends and collegues.
Never mind, it just opens up more opportunities for others.
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