Moving to Johannesburg soon-HELP

[leedsboy86]

jburg...any safe parts to live?

[Daxk]

Yes.
Death Valley Hostel
;o))

[Americano]

O Século is the weekly Portuguese paper here in Joburg

[ROKZY]

Originally Posted by duarte2001

Hi

My name is Joao and I come from Portugal.me and my family are moving to Johannesburg in about a month.I will be working in the Richmond area-Johannesburg.Can you advise me a good place to live not farway from my place of work.I have a little boy with 2 years old.I also will have a car but I wouldn't like to live farway from my work.What would you advise me....a flat or a townhouse?

Many thanks

Joao duarte

Hi Joao!

I will be moving to Jo'burg in a few days. Like you, I have a 2 year old child. We are looking at a gated community and I am also bringing my large pet dog as additional security. Because of our dog, we cannot have a flat/its a trade off for our situation. Some people recomend having a dog and (if you wife can stand the canine!)it can be a wonderful thing for a kid to grow up with. If you like, I'll be happy to share any tips I discover with the transition of my kid. Best of the best to you and your family,
Kind Regards,
Rokzy

[ROKZY]

So Daxk-
had you a pegged the brute could you've been charged for murder? And is it true if someone is in your home threateining you and you shoot them- you could also be found guilty and imprisioned? I'd hate fer me sniper training to be for not!

[Daxk]

Rokzy, if you read the SA Firearms act, you have to prove that your life or someone elses was in mortal danger and then you are only allowed to use equivalent force.
You are automatically charged with murder and te prosecutor will then decide ,with 20/20 hindsight, wether your life was in sufficient danger.
Until recently, even the Police were constrained from shooting unless they had been fired on first.
if the Perpetrator is armed with a knife,axe,screwdriver or a club and you have a firearm, the Courts will deem that the threat of the gun was sufficient and you will be charged with wilful murder even if in your home..
The only way you can prove self defence is if the perpetrator fires first.
Had I shot the young man I would have been found guilty of either murder or attempted murder.
He was deaf, he was unarmed, his potential victim had been able to drag herself and him into
my yard therefore she was not incapacitated and needing assistance..
The only thing I could have charged him with was trespass.
A Client of mine spent 18 months in court under a charge of murder,it bankrupted him.
He shot two guys breaking open the security gate to his babies bedroom.
The Judge ruled that as they "only" had knives and had not broken through the security door yet, he had used excessive force and he did not have a witness to the fact that he warned both and they had continued.
In theory you are innocent until proven guilty but you are automatically charged with murder.
Until someone else decides.

[Daxk]

Oh Rokzy, sniper training is far distance, all the hi-jackings and armed robberies are up close and personal.

[ROKZY]

Clandestine vigilante is the way to go....

[ROKZY]

Originally Posted by Daxk

Oh Rokzy, sniper training is far distance, all the hi-jackings and armed robberies are up close and personal.

I'm pleased by a closer target- that's what combat training is for. Besides, when crime is commited by a person who just wants to eat, it changes the circumstance-but is still wrong. It seems like this is what a lot of the crime is- but i'm sure there is a fare share of bully crimes too (as you know, i'm sure). I have spent the last 2 weeks in Los Angeles and the news here leads one to believe it is the city of devils, not angels- however you gotta put it into perpsective and not let fear disempower you.

[Daxk]

there is the first misconception by all 1st Worlders.
The guy with the gun is'nt stealing food, its a business,he has buyers for your car and Jewellry and firearms, he shoots and /or rapes you because he can.
After he has your goods.
So who or what has told you its poverty?
Shoplifting for food, yes, Poaching or stock theft, yes, but how does murder come into the poverty scale?

Having said that, I have yet to see someone in SA who has starved to death,(Anorexia and Bullemia excepted) , I have yet to see a child or someone suffering from Kwashorikior or
the distended bellies you see in Zim, Ethiopia,Darfur Sudan etc..in South Africa.
If I look at the Health Services Council on Mortality ,infants sometimes die of starvation, but then a lot of infants are thrown down Pit toilets, abandoned in the veld because its a form of contraception.

aaah yes, combat training!
lets see now, the first time was 4 young guys who grabbed me on a busy Johannesburg Street at lunchtime, one each on an arm and leg,one around the neck and the fourth held the knife, I was neatly trussed and immobilised while they helped themselves while the lunchtime traffic, including two police officers looked the other way and parted around us.
The second time they got close was an old BM on my tail and as i got to the bridge,they pulled a small pickup across the other side, fortunately for me he hit the brakes late and left me a small gap, I saw the guy with the AK on the back but was too busy driving around the back in a power slide to do much The first burst went through the wing, the next one through the drivers door before it flattened below my leg.
The third time they got close (there were two other almosts but I spotted them before) i saw them coming got away from the car and into the veld, i heard the gunshots , two plainclothes police were in the car behind the hi-jackers, Lions-0, Christians-2
the penultimate time, 4 of them kept all the sight and firing lines clear, stayed just out of reach, frisked me so professionally and treated me carefully as he recognised both of us were pro's and that I would maximise any advantage or mistake.
The last time was the same little gang out on bail letting me know they knew where I lived.

Probably unlike you, I spent 13 years being exposed to actual combat situations in Namibia, Angola, Mocambique and Rhodesia, am a trained unarmed comabat instructor, am fully proefficient and well versed and experienced
in small arms, Semi and automatic weapons, Heavy Machine guns ,mortars, ant tank Missiles, both Guided and blind, have fired all of the above at some time or another in anger,
have spilt blood and had mine spilt, buried friends and enemies.

I did'nt stand a chance against the criminals.
Neither do you.