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The irony is that today these arms seem to be used on its own citizens rather than protecting a country's sovereignty. So back to this topic, a new Egyptian democratic government could well do without the $1.3 billion each year if its military only wants to subdue its own people.

If Iran and Israel do kick off, I don't think being allied to the US that Egypt will be a good position seeing as Iranian missiles with a range of 2,400 km. would be in easy reach..... Food for thought Mr Tantawi. Maybe you should stick to protecting Egypt and let Politicians play politics.


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It will kick off when the chosen ones are involved. I wonder how much debt do we still have to pay to these people for past events.

Also iran is the third oil supplier in the world. They bagged iraq and then Lybia, now they need Iran.

But the devil in the detail is that both China and Russia get most of their oil from Iran......
I can see a regional war breaking out there between Iran vs Israel / US. Whether it wil escalate isw a matter of debate. I think we are due a nuclear war at some point.

It could all turn very nasty.

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Iran is the 7th country in production of uranium hexafluoride not only will America be after the oil but the uranium, they just need to create more viral propaganda so they can carve up the arab world and control everything

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an has successfully test fired a medium-range surface-to-air missile during navy war games taking place near the strategic Strait of Hormuz, the official IRNA news agency has reported.

"This medium-range surface-to-air missile is equipped with the latest technology to combat radar-evading targets and intelligent systems which try to disrupt missile navigation," Mahmoud Mousavi, spokesman for the manoeuvres, was quoted as saying on Sunday.

He said it was the first time Iran had tested the missile, which was "domestically designed and built".

Mousavi also said that the 10 days of war games were to end on Monday with all ships and submarines exercising a new tactic to practise the closure of the strait "if Iran's navy so chooses".

It was not immediately known whether the missile was fired from a ship or from land. Other details about the missile, including the distance it can fly, were not given.

The missile's launch and the war games are meant to show Iran's military capabilities at a time that the US and other Western nations are increasing pressure over Tehran's nuclear programme.

The fact that they are taking place near the Strait of Hormuz has focused attention on Iran's threats in recent days that it could close the narrow channel, a strategic oil route at the entrance to the Gulf, if more sanctions are put in place

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and when I taught my pigs to fly, I also invented a means to evade photographers....

Happy New Year everyone.... Let's hope we see the silver lining through all the Middle East clouds and wish for the governments to get their acts together and stop talking like sabre-rattling kids.

The global public have had enough of dictators too. Anyone thinking of applying for one of those positions should look back at 2011 with great care and attention. Power is short lived.


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BREAKING NEWS: The Pentagon Sends US Troops to Israel. Iran is the Unspoken Target
Blacked-out news story in America...

January 2, 2012. Jerusalem. In one of the most blacked-out stories in America right now, the US military is preparing to send thousands of US troops, along with US Naval anti-missile ships and accompanying support personnel, to Israel.

It took forever to find a second source for confirmation of this story and both relatively mainstream media outlets are in Israel. With one source saying the military deployment and corresponding exercises are to occur in January, the source providing most of the details suggests it will occur later this spring. Calling it not just an “exercise”, but a “deployment”, the Jerusalem Post quotes US Lt.-Gen Frank Gorenc, Commander of the US Third Air Force based in Germany. The US Commander visited Israel two weeks ago to confirm details for “the deployment of several thousand American soldiers to Israel.” In an effort to respond to recent Iranian threats and counter-threats, Israel announced the largest ever missile defense exercise in its history. Now, it’s reported that the US military, including the US Navy, will be stationed throughout Israel, also taking part.

While American troops will be stationed in Israel for an unspecified amount of time, Israeli military personnel will be added to EUCOM in Germany. EUCOM stands for United States European Command.

In preparation for anticipated Iranian missile attacks upon Israel, the US is reportedly bringing its THAAD, Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, and ship-based Aegis ballistic missile systems to Israel. The US forces will join Israeli missile defense systems like the Patriot and Arrow. The deployment comes with “the ultimate goal of establishing joint task forces in the event of a large-scale conflict in the Middle East”.

The Jerusalem Post reports that US Lt.-Gen Frank Gorenc was in Israel meeting with his Israeli counterpart, Brig.-Gen Doron Gavish, commander of the Air Defense Division. While there, the US General visited one of Israel’s three ‘Iron Dome’ anti-missile outposts. The Israeli Air Force has announced plans to deploy a fourth Iron Dome system in the coming months. Additional spending increases in the Jewish state will guarantee the manufacture and deployment of three more Iron Dome systems by the end of 2012. The Israelis are hoping to eventually have at least a dozen of the anti-missile systems deployed along its northern and southern borders.

In a show of escalated tensions in the region, Iran test fired two long range missiles today. One, called the Qadar, is a powerful sea-to-shore missile. The other was an advanced surface-to-surface missile called the Nour. According to Iranian state news, the Nour is an ‘advanced radar-evading, target-seeking, guided and controlled missile’. Additionally, the Iranian military reportedly test-fired numerous other short, medium and long-range missiles. Yesterday, Iranian authorities reported that they test-fired the medium-range, surface-to-air, radar-evading Mehrab missile. Today is supposed to be the final day of Iranian naval drills in the Straits of Hormuz.

Iran recently made global headlines when it threatened to blockade the Straits of Hormuz if Europe and the US went ahead with their boycott of Iranian oil and the country’s central bank. One-quarter of the world’s oil passes through that waterway every day. President Obama has announced that a closure of the Straits was unacceptable and vowed to take whatever measures are necessary to keep the vital shipping lane open.

In response to the Iranian missile tests this weekend, French authorities were the first to respond, calling it a, “very bad signal to the international community."We want to underline that the development by Iran of a missile program is a source of great concern to the international community,"the French Foreign Ministry said in a written statement. Israeli officials suggested the flamboyant Iranian military drills this weekend were a sign that international sanctions on the country were taking a heavy toll and that any additional boycotts, on its banks or oil industry, would be crippling.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said the large missile tests showed, “the dire straits of Iran in light of the tightening sanctions around her, including the considerations in the last few days regarding the sanctions of exporting petroleum as well as the possibility of sanctions against the Iranian Central Bank." While the chances of Iran going through with its threat of closing the Strait of Hormuz are slim, the deployment of thousands of US troops and naval ships to Israel shows the US isn’t taking any chances.



I guess we will soon see just how accurate this news source is.

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I hope the people's republic and vladimir putin send some of their ships to dock on the iranian coastline.
it is time the two bullies USA and Israel were put in their place.

Sorry to be off topic here but I could not help myself from laughing:
BBC News - Deadly clash of militias in Libyan capital Tripoli
I thought Libya was supposed to be free from acts of violence once Khaddafi had been "deposed".....

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I agree Marenostrum, wholeheartedly. BUT...with this new bill Obama just signed into law, who knows, just speaking the truth about America and it's ugly policies now could just land me in jail...indefinitely!

What's even scarier almost, are the war mongering Republican candidates (several who have stated Palestine does not even exist) running in the presidential primary right now. Arggg


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Scary stuff... I know someone who just might know how accurate this news report is.. let me see if I can get hold of him,

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I haven't seen a single mention of this anywhere for 2 days now, just the same article reprinted on other sites. Either this is one of the best kept secrets for sometime, or else it's just nonesense. I truly hope it's the latter.

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