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For a few years, until 1962, I lived near Izmir, with my family, while stationed there with the USAF. We were befriended by a family in Kar?iyaka and will always remember the hospitality of the Akkoyunlu extended family. Now, as I approach my 70th year, I am living in Mexico but always wish that I had the health and resources to move back to Turkey. Some of my best memories are there. I was able to return once in 1972 and found it very much changed. Perhaps I shouldn't go back after all this time and so much development; they say, "you can't go back." I remember, for example, being the only ones at Ephesus and being the only people picknicking on the beach at Ku?adas? when the town was a village and there were not hotels. Yeah, I'm old!
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One of the hard things about going back is discovering that things have changed in ways you think are for the worse. Of course, I don't like all the heavy traffic and pollution in Chiang Mai. However, there is heavy traffic and pollution because the people have more money and can afford motorbikes. I doubt they would want to go back.
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th4s - yes, some very helpful info on your site(s).
But what I need to hear are people's stories of relocating - both good and bad. I live in turkish Northern cyprus, and if I had known before I moved here what was going on, dearly as I love the island, I would not have decided to live here. Info is great, and useful, but indivdual stories say a lot more... Cheers Kim |
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Turkey is probably going to have a lot of the things you like about Northern Cyprus but perhaps less of the stress. Things are a little more certain here and the country is a little more mainstream established and is working hard to raise itself to European ideals.
I've lived and worked here for a couple of years of now, I have a company - which is not a walk in the park, especially if you are legal! - it gets frustrating sometimes and there are things that seem sent to try you on the beaurocratic front, but we have built up a great network of friends and support and information networks and that gets us through the tricky bits when you just need to vent! We live in a little village outside Kusadasi and we prefer it here to being in the main resort, we live a more normal life, not surrounded by people constantly on holiday (which can be weird if you are trying to work). We have dinner parties and we socialise with friends but we rarely go to the tourist bars. We have stable electricity, high speed wifi, cheap telephone, good water supply and we just live quietly, apart from the occassional late night gin fest. In Turkey especially you need to find a niche market if you want to succeed and you need to respect the laws of the country and the spirit of the laws that allow us to come here to work. So, if you have a company you need to employ local people, you need to train people and put something back into the community. Right now I think there is market potential in the following niche sectors - therapeutic services (massage/beauty/new age), niche tourism (boutique hotels/art holidays/bespoke tours), high end home goods(bespoke carpentry/soft furnishings), education (private tutoring). All of these areas could provide small viable business opportunities for people looking to support a lifestyle move. The key is to come here and spend some time exploring and talking to a wide variety of people who are actually doing it, build a relationship with them and learn about the pitfalls and the various ways to safeguard yourself. Hope this helps a bit. Karyn |
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Karyn - thanks for that - it is exactly the sort of thing I want to know. We are retired now - although occasionally I miss working -, and on a very small budget. We have been to Turkey many times, but always on holiday, and I understand now, if I didn't before - that permanent living is completely different. The politics in Cyprus are difficult, and there is always hanging over us the prospect of The Problem. Also, as you say, it is an unstable society, with almost everyone, business wise, out to Fleece The Brits (no, not paranoia, but actual fact) though the "ordinary" TCs are usually very nice people, like their mainland cousins.
I would like to talk more with you, if you have time, and by all means email if it is easier: I'd like to give you my email, but the site will not permit me to! Let me say my name is kimig1, and I use google's mail service, gmail. Maybe this will get through! |
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