help!small shop/business ideas?

[locovida]

Hello all,

We are thinking of opening a small shop or some kind of business in central portugal,we are flexible on the location,but needs to be cheap max budget is £30,000 for premises.Please could you tell me what you need/want in this area? do you think it might be worth opening some sort of english shop for ex pats?just need enough money to get by for me and my family,thanks.

[silvers]

There's already a guy with three English goods stores and he also does the local markets. I would hate you to go into this and lose all your money.

[stacks]

Originally Posted by silvers

There's already a guy with three English goods stores and he also does the local markets. I would hate you to go into this and lose all your money.

Hi i know im new to the forum but this subject as come up a few times on this forum and other forums. i am on about people wanting to open a shop or a market stall.we live in obidos and there is no one who sells english food. everytime some one puts on they want to start this. this ghy barry gets mentioned.we once drove to penela where his stall his and he had nothing at all on it .it was a complete waste of are drive and diesel.i no quite a lot of expats round peniche and obidos who would love to have somewhere to go for english food indian or chinese.as far as im concerned portugal is big enough for someone else to try this and i think they would do well at it.there had my rant about it now.oh and good luck to you go for it because i think you would do well in a little shop

[silvers]

Wow, I seem to have upset you. If you go to the new Vivaci centre in Caldas da Rainha, there is a supermarket called Pao da Acucar, they sell a whole range of Pataks and also Chinese and Mexican food. Failing that, the Jumbo in Torres vedras stock pretty much the same, including Vimto.

[stacks]

Originally Posted by silvers

Wow, I seem to have upset you. If you go to the new Vivaci centre in Caldas da Rainha, there is a supermarket called Pao da Acucar, they sell a whole range of Pataks and also Chinese and Mexican food. Failing that, the Jumbo in Torres vedras stock pretty much the same, including Vimto.

Hi silvers you didnt upset me.it seems to me when someone writes in to the forums asking advice on work situations or wanting to start a business theres a lot of dome an gloom . i no alot of people say you have to speke the language and in many cases a lot of people will do this. there must be a lot of expats who have gone to portugal and started there own business and done well so why dont we hear from these people.

[silvers]

I am sure that there are successes out there, they are probably too busy to reply. If you look back over my many posts I try to be as positive as possible, but I have to speak if I see somebody risking their lifesavings on a venture that is far from certain.
As I have said before on here, open a chippy, English bar with catering or even a sports bar showing Premier league football and you will be onto a winner. I have spoken to a lot of expats around here and food seems to be the least of their problems. They desire entertainment more, that's your market, in my humble opinion.

[stacks]

Originally Posted by silvers

I am sure that there are successes out there, they are probably too busy to reply. If you look back over my many posts I try to be as positive as possible, but I have to speak if I see somebody risking their lifesavings on a venture that is far from certain.
As I have said before on here, open a chippy, English bar with catering or even a sports bar showing Premier league football and you will be onto a winner. I have spoken to a lot of expats around here and food seems to be the least of their problems. They desire entertainment more, that's your market, in my humble opinion.

I would agree with you on that they are crying out for english bar threw experiance last year when we had quite a lot of family over. and they were all running round peniche for a tv to watch football.i would agree that i wouldnt want anyone to lose there money on something that wouldnt work.so theres a good business for you to start locovida a good english bar

[locovida]

Originally Posted by stacks

Hi i know im new to the forum but this subject as come up a few times on this forum and other forums. i am on about people wanting to open a shop or a market stall.we live in obidos and there is no one who sells english food. everytime some one puts on they want to start this. this ghy barry gets mentioned.we once drove to penela where his stall his and he had nothing at all on it .it was a complete waste of are drive and diesel.i no quite a lot of expats round peniche and obidos who would love to have somewhere to go for english food indian or chinese.as far as im concerned portugal is big enough for someone else to try this and i think they would do well at it.there had my rant about it now.oh and good luck to you go for it because i think you would do well in a little shop

Thanks so much,my partner is portuguese so the language shouldnt be too much of a problem,we have a bit more research to do first...you might see more messages from me soon! but will look into the areas you mentioned,not sure about a bar though,wouldnt know where to start! thanks a lot,Locovida

[mitz]

Originally Posted by stacks

i no quite a lot of expats round peniche and obidos who would love to have somewhere to go for english food indian or chinese.

There's a good Chinese in Caldas close to the hospital.
There is another one by the park but it's not quite as good IMO.
Not far from Óbidos but a fair drive from Peniche

[silvers]

Locovida,
I realise that a bar sounds expensive, what you have to remember is that beer here is mainly sold bottled, so you can do without pumps and barrels if you have to. Premises, big tv's and some bar stools and off you go. All you have to do is look at the Algarve, which are the busiest places around there? The pubs and bars, the football bars are always full, they are even full for repeat showings.