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Want to Marry A Filipina? Think Again..

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#1 ·
Many of us are married to a Filipina and have had good luck and a good life. It has always been a fairly easy process to contract marriage here but that is likely about to change.

The Philippine government seems to think there should be more requirements to marry as they feel the Filipina ladies are too often being exploited. Seems to me it is most often times the men that are getting the short end of the stick :cool:.

Interesting article. What is YOUR opinion?



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#52 ·
I found a lot of that when working even in Japan with Japanese cops and realtors (rental agencies)...lot of paper and carbon copies etc...And I'm talking within the last 6-7 years! Stuff we'd all do now on computers, they were doing in ledgers and on type writers. I was amazed....and not in a good way.
 
#53 ·
Some people should stop stereotyping filipina.. not all of us are like that. Some girls are honest, faithful to their partners and really looking for love and not for money, citizenship whatsoever. In every country there are always good and bad people and gold diggers, not only in Philippines.

Don't easily believe on everything you read online. I know some people who are also bad mouthing filipina girls online who are also their fellow filipinos especially (pinoy men) i don't know why but for some reasons filipino men are always raising their eyebrows everytime they see their girls in a relationship with foreigners especially the white ones #TrueStory, most of them thinks that you are stealing their girls.. and one reason too is that in Philippines it's very RARE for filipino men to date/ marry white girls.. compared to filipina girls which is more easier to date foreign men, so somehow those pinoy men (not all but some) are having a bitterness in their hearts. So everytime they see a filipina+foreign guy couple they will ALWAYS say that she is a prostitute even she is not. Again, not all pinoy men is like that, but there are some... But yes i admit that there are also pinays who are liars, scammers.. so be careful to that. You will always know if the girl is decent if she don't ask money from you because she is shy.

About growing populations of pinay dating "older men", yes maybe some because of money... but some are for love too. In Philippines most fathers especially nowadays are all working outside the Philippines to feed their family and support their child's education.. most filipino kids don't grew up with their fathers... so that might be one reason why some girls here are falling for older men, they somehow longing for that father image. But there are also pinay girls whos in a relationship with foreign guys close to their age or younger than them. Bottomline not all filipina girls are bad.
 
#55 ·
Some people should stop stereotyping filipina.. not all of us are like that. Some girls are honest, faithful to their partners and really looking for love and not for money, citizenship whatsoever. In every country there are always good and bad people and gold diggers, not only in Philippines.
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in the same vein, should I say the politicians and the likes should stop stereotyping all foreigners as out to destroy/defile the women here, and taking advantage/abusing/leaving them pregnant etc ??

If you see the law being proposed, the topic of this thread, sort of implies that foreigners are the cause for all social evil in Philippines

So how ????
 
#56 · (Edited by Moderator)
I think this is a hot topic all over the Philippines among most of us (expats). Let me tell you about my first experience coming here to meet a girl.

Back in 2008 online, I met what I considered to be a nice Filipina girl, she was in her early thirty's, had two kids (or so I was told) and lived here in Tacloban City.

For two years we chatted almost every night. Every night I was somewhere that there was a computer to use...we talked about everything, clothes, weather, housing, anything you can think of to have a conversation...I was single, had a great job, and had money to burn. Eventually I got tired of her trying to chat with me in the internet cafe and bought here a computer..she didnt ask it was my idea. After that we could and did get together at a more set time so that we could chat every day.

Eventually I retired, and in 2011 flew to Manila to meet her.
I was met by her and her two brothers, spent a week in Manila shopping and looking around then flew to Tacloban City, she had already got us an apartment so that was easy. A few days after I got to Tacloban she tearfully announced she had four kids not two..I should have run then.

We lived together for eight months, during that time I doubt if more than a handful of times I went out without her, or somebody from the family with me. They would always say it was for my protection...not that I felt I needed protecting as my last job was in Afgan. I found out what "Tampo" was, how to go to the mall everyday, how to spend 12k or more every couple of weeks on food...how kids that have had zero discipline in their life act etc.

I use to keep about 10k in my wallet at all times and a couple of times it went missing, when I would question where it went (nobody in the house but the kids and her) obviously one of the kids took it...she would accuse me of tempting them to steal..

I was getting pretty sick of this and I think she knew it because I woke up one day and she and the kids were gone...so was over a million pesos from my bank account I found out later.
Later before I found out about the million pesos, she said she was going over to live with her mother to "think" and took all her junk.

Long story short, or I should say long story shorter, she left for Manila to be with her Filipino bf and abandoned two of the kids with her mother.

Now it sounds like Im fairly stupid, actually Im not...she was just a d**n good actor. And nobody will ever convince me she didnt plan it or something like it all along.......

The story has a cool ending though, finally met one I really loved and trusted and we have been together for almost three years, married and have a son together...but thats another story.

For those who are wondering what eventually happened, her Filipino bf, stole the money she stole from me leaving her broke, and now she is in Cavite with another bf who is a bus driver.

Life goes on, I used it as a expensive lesson. I learned a lot from that and in the end its probably a good thing...but a bill to protect foreigners from Filipinas would be more appropriate in my opinion....Lee
 
#57 ·
Here is a conversation I had with the Program manager for the Vice Mayor of Quezon City
on Skype a couple of days ago.....kinda shows you their thinking and how out of touch they are.

HB 2387 http://www.philstar.com/cebu-news/2014/11/08/1389400/more-requirements-foreigners-marry-filipinas
Cris: Hi, I've seen it already, for me it's ok, it's for the protection of Filipino women, and besides if the foreign guy is in good faith I don't see any problem, with asking for a certification of being a good residence of his country, besides the house bill only want to protect the welfare of Filipino women..
Cris: I will share one story to you actually this is true to life , I mean it's rely happened here in Quezon City
Cris: A women ask for assistance here in our office
Lee : what you dont realize is that most embassys american and british, do not keep up with their people like that..there is no paper that says your a citizan in good standing, it does not exist
Cris: At least they have to show some documents on how they leave in their country , like a certification from their work, or papers that shows that they are legal citizen of what country they represents
Cris: You know that bill only want to protect the Filipina women
Lee: thats what a passport is for, proves your a citizen, in the US we dont have papers that show where we work, or if we pay our bills...
Cris: You know sometimes Filipina is very gullible ,
Lee: what makes me mad, is if you want to protect Filipina women, protect them from the Filipino men who make them pregnant and just leave to go to another woman and then do it time and time again
Crist: Especially to the foreigner guy
Cris: Well, that's what you call choices
Lee : so thats ok, then, all the kids with no fathers
Lee : but its not ok for a filipina to marry a forgn that will give them a good life
Cris: Not all my friend
Cris: For you maybe yes, your motives is clean
Cris: But it doesn't mean that all foreigners has a good heart and good intention just like you
Cris: Being foreigners not an excuse that your cannot give harm to our Filipino women
Cris: That's what the bill wanted to do
Lee: i agree with that, but for me, and for most I know, all we do is help...it seems like most here that pass laws think all forgn are bad guys
Cris: There's a saying, PREVENTION is better THAN CURE
Cris: No, that's not true
Lee : Then for Gods sake, prevent the Filipino men from abandoning their kids that they made and just leave, no money no support....then you will have protected Filipina women
Lee : you come here and i can show you ten women with several kids that get no support at all
Cris: No need dear, only here we have so many of that
Cris: But my point is. This is my personal opinion.. We have so many cases like abandonment ,
Cris: Financial support
Lee : In the US, if you father a child and do not pay child support..the law will hunt you down and put you in jail...
Cris: We have also that here in the Philippines,
Cris: Are we in the same boat? I mean pls. Specify what kind of case we are going to argue, coz we have kids with out father by choice of their mothers. There are unwed mothers because of some circumstances , which one? Coz in every situation there's different solution and arguments
Crist: Give me an example of what do you want to point out
Cris: I can give you my side of opinion
Lee : I know a girl her, had a husband, live in, has three kids, one day the father just left...found another girl, gives the girl with the three kids 0 support..when the girl ask him or some help, he replied, have another family now..dont have the funds
Cris: See, they only live -in , no marriage license ,first she must insist that they must be married before they have 3 kids, so it means that's a choice of a woman, government has nothing to do with that , no one tell her to have 3 kids out of wedlock , then after her live in partner left her, she will curse the government for what she's going trough ? How the government help her? You know the law, you must show documents and papers if you want to file the case against to someone
Cris: but if that lady is married to her husband for sure
Cris: She will see what the law can do to help her to put her husband in jail
Cris: If he refused to support the children
Lee : The trouble as I see it is that most of the poor here, do not get married, its hard to have the funds if your a pedicab driver making only enough to buy rice..
Lee: and if you do get married, there is no divorce so if you leave then you are subject to jail anyway
Cris: See
Cris: It means
Cris: We can put I to the jail
Cris: All that no balls men
Lee : If there was a divorce law, when the divorce was granted, then at that time the law could ensure the support of the kids...
Cris: After they get what they want to the girls they just trush
Cris: Dear, we have a law for the legal family, like family code, a law 9262 , Violence againts women's and their children
Cris: Even in illegitimate child we have also law for them
Cris: The thing is, those incidents of having kids with out fathers is not a fault from the government, like I said
Cris: EVERYONE has a CHOICE
Cris: And so happen that FILIPINA women are sooo GULLIBLE..that's what the HB all about. Protection for a gullible. Women
Cris: I'm about to leave in the office now
 
#58 ·
Here is a conversation I had with the Program manager for the Vice Mayor of Quezon City
on Skype a couple of days ago.....kinda shows you their thinking and how out of touch they are.
Knowing Filipinos, this kind of conversation even with educated Filipinos isn't healthy for one's own life span !!

I learnt many lessons

As recent as last year, a Foreigner, non-catholic, married to A Filipino, wanted to baptize his son

The priest said no-can-do, a the father is not a Christian, and marriage is not registered in Philippines !!

I was tempted to ask how does it go for one of the famous senator, who has dozens of kids by dozens of girl friends, 38 officially and 72 unofficially, all are growing up as God fearing catholics .. !! But I dare not

And likewise a Filipino girl was gushing about Imelda Marcos when she was visiting Singapore (one of those official visits) and went on to say Marcos was the best president .. etc. etc .. and wish they had the son as the next president

I casually asked her, if she truly believed Imelda's claims that she found Yama****a's gold, as the reason for her extravagance, and also truly Marcos never stole a single penny, on his then 300,000 peso annual salary was able to gift Imelda millions of dollars worth diamonds and priceless paintings and all

She was shocked and accused me of spoiling the name of a good family, who's presidency was the best yet.

I persisted and asked, if Marcos didn't take home the 30 billion or so, officially known to have disappeared, apart from massive abuse of state property, from Philippine Airline running a Dairy Express, to PAF's fleet being replaced with Executive Jets for the family's shopping runs .. She insisted I am a bad person ..

Left it at that .. !!!

PS, a comment attributed to Imelda, during the Hosting of Miss Universe Contest in Manila

When she reached Miss South Africa she asked, “What does your father do?” The nervous young woman replied, “Daddy? Oh, he’s in the mining business!”

“That’s a coincidence ! “ Imelda immediately retorted, sweeping her arms around the magnificent lobby of her new Cultural Centre, “I’m in the mining business too! That’s mine, that’s mine and that’s mine. In fact everything you see here is mine!”
 
#59 ·
Just so you know, there are many closet Marcos supporters in the Aquino administration. This I know for a fact.
Hopefully, in a polite way, or at least not antagonistically, I will continue to say what I believe.
IMHO, when a man or woman stops voicing, or standing up for what they believe they are giving the ones in who they don't believe the keys to the car, filling it with gas and saying have a nice day.
'Those who stand for nothing fall for anything' Alexander Hamilton 1778
 
#60 · (Edited)
Just so you know, there are many closet Marcos supporters in the Aquino administration. This I know for a fact.
well, what not many know is Marcos and Aquino aren't apart.

In a way .. and they were friends, even though they didn't dare to think of killing each other .. like how Aquino Entertained Gloria before he threw her into jail .. and Aquino attended functions where Imelda Sang ..

Hopefully, in a polite way, or at least not antagonistically, I will continue to say what I believe.

IMHO, when a man or woman stops voicing, or standing up for what they believe they are giving the ones in who they don't believe the keys to the car, filling it with gas and saying have a nice day.
'Those who stand for nothing fall for anything' Alexander Hamilton 1778
Well, I would agree with you, if

1) it is your country and
2) you hold a Philippine passport (not gonna get deported as a bad foreigner)
or
3) you have nothing to loose getting deported, and your assets all getting forefeited

or

4) you have experience how emotional and irrational Filipinos can get, if they get mad, especially when it is a foreigner correcting them and willing to face the wrath

for example, in Singapore, where rioting/fighting = caning/jail + deportation, hasn't stopped enough Filipino men and women going all fisticuffs on anybody who dare to say bad things about Philippines, or anything Filipino ! Including on weekends when people are drunk and words get lost in translation !!

Including a guy I saw getting thrashed for calling a Filipino Bar girl as a "BAR GIRL" .. though some guys were screaming at the mob to stop it, or all will get arrested ..

arrested the mob got, and the fact the Filipino men and women who jumped on the guy all were arrested and hand cuffed and quietly deported never to return to Singapore, didn't stop another similar 'event' happening a week or so later, and the guys involved did know what happened to those in the previous event

And once emotionally charged, there logic etc flies out of the window, including educated Filipinos I have seen, overseas !

A Filipino is worth dying for, said Ninoy

In my opinion, a Filipino will kill any foreigner, to defend the honour (or supposed honour) of a fellow Filipino (or Filipina), even out of the country !! And that will include even trying to hurt/kill non-Filipino men who may insult bar girls !!

Play and live safe !!!
 
#62 ·
Many nationalities and cultures, when their interpretation of honor is challenged,
will kill.
In reality, this misguided belief / attitude is just their EGO working, a twisted inheritance / legacy from their parents and forefathers.
Witness in some groups, the parents kill their daughters when their wishes are not obeyed. To them, this practice is not only "honorable" but also a duty.

Wait... umm.. now I feel I am OT.. hmm.. ok, let me rest for a minute. :focus:
 
#71 ·
I got married in the Philippines and as far as the "letter of good character" The US Embassy basically did a background check and verified eligiblity to get married as far as the US was concerned and verified that I was divorced (single) based on documents that I supplied. The PI officials took this letter from the Embassy and checked off the box on their list.
 
#72 ·
At least with the promised polygomy laws in the Philippines, a foreigner will only have to prove he is of moral character once irrespective of how many wives he marries.

I suggest they streamline the law by allowing the current spouse(s) to provide proof of their foreign husband's good character prior to the divine blessing of the new wife. After all, who is a better judge of one's character than one's own wife. The more wives you have supporting your moral integrity, the stronger your moral character.

:D
 
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