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Hi readers,
I was wondering if there are any more updates with knowledge on grid tied solar systems in the Philippines? I did some searching here but only found older posts on this topic, (maybe I need to have a mummy look instead of a daddy look) correct me if I overlooked something.

I did a lot or research on in regards to this a year ago and am out of touch now with current trends and pricing. A year ago it was viable but about a 5 to 6 year return on money invested, maybe longer depending on power usage.
We set up a grid tied system here in S/E Queensland Australia 3 years ago at a cost of AU $3,400.00 about PHP 120,000. The savings were immediate reducing our quarterly bills by AU $450.00, within 2 years the system paid for itself, great investment.

Has any one reading or know of anyone that has gone for a system like this hooked up to Meralco? Cost and viability? Last research showed that a system like we have here would cost around PHP 300,000.
About to jump onto the Meralco site for a look.

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At our local expat gathering here in Iloilo, there is one gentleman who deals with this situation daily as he sells & installs these. Here is info from his business card: Capt. Bernard Lugar, Managing Director. Ph# 0917 7174 263 & (033)320 8072 sales@sunsolar-NRG.com and SunSolarNRG . He is always extolling the benefits of the type system you are talking about. Hope this helps get you some current info although here on Panay Island we deal with PECO instead of MERALCO.

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At our local expat gathering here in Iloilo, there is one gentleman who deals with this situation daily as he sells & installs these. Here is info from his business card: Capt. Bernard Lugar, Managing Director. Ph# 0917 7174 263 & (033)320 8072 sales@sunsolar-NRG.com and SunSolarNRG . He is always extolling the benefits of the type system you are talking about. Hope this helps get you some current info although here on Panay Island we deal with PECO instead of MERALCO.

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Thanks Fred, I looked at their site, thanks for the info, as we will be in the La Union Ilocos we would hope to find a local supplier, contact with the company you mentioned may point us in the right direction.

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as we will be in the La Union Ilocos
Depending on where you will end up in La Union,there is (or was) a Solar biz in Bauang that my niece is acquainted with.At the time,I was interested in going solar,or partially at least.They had a website,but I think it is gone now.

Maybe I could check with her and get a name if you are interested.I think there was another Solar biz that I heard of locally to San Fernando,but it has been awhile since I investigated it.

If you want contact info,send me a personal message.

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Depending on where you will end up in La Union,there is (or was) a Solar biz in Bauang that my niece is acquainted with.At the time,I was interested in going solar,or partially at least.They had a website,but I think it is gone now.

Maybe I could check with her and get a name if you are interested.I think there was another Solar biz that I heard of locally to San Fernando,but it has been awhile since I investigated it.

If you want contact info,send me a personal message.

SMM
Thanks SMM, Family in San Fernando but we are looking around San Juan so not so far by any means, If these companies are still going can that info be put on here or is that considered spamming? Not sure, If you find they are still operational then us all know on here that you found the info and I and others could contact you privately.
Are you living up that way yourself?
We visit once or twice a year, plan to buy or build in about 2 years, if we find something we like in March when we are back then buy and get a care taker until we return, or just keep looking, slowly slowly.
Again thanks for your help.

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As I understand the policy, it is alright to post the info as long as someone has asked for it. That is why I posted the info on open forum and I haven't been kicked yet.

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As I understand the policy, it is alright to post the info as long as someone has asked for it. That is why I posted the info on open forum and I haven't been kicked yet.

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Ah yes you did post info earlier in this thread and thank you for that, yes you are still here, sweet. This thread has proved valuable to me as there is a possibility of a local company to help us with our needs.
Thanks Fred.

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If you are looking in San Juan,then we are North of you by about 5-10 minutes...or an hour if there is road destruction going on.

I'll see what info the niece can provide,but everything takes longer here..and it may take a day or 2.


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Hi Steve,

I was in Cebu for some time & tried to set up a system for the Sapak orphanage in Compostela. The problem I ran into was that the power companies, Cebeco & Veco have different rules. They are both supposed to give a feed in tariff but only Veco do it. As you probably know you can't pick your supplier in the Philippines (not on Cebu Island anyway). They have their own areas and you have no choice.

Unfortunately the Orphanage was in a Cebeco zone & they don't do a feed in tariff whereas Veco do! The way I understand it they are all supposed to have been doing it for years but there is little awareness of solar power & no one seems to care much.

What I did figure out is that the best way of doing it if you are in a Veco zone is to use the old analog meters which simply go backwards when you supply the grid & forwards when you use it. I had no confidence at all that any credits would be paid & was trying to install a system that basically generated just enough to come up with near enough to a zero bill until I discovered that we were in a Cebeco zone & gave up.

I did figure that maybe there would have been a 6/7 year return on the investment which is pretty good but this was by importing an inverter direct from China & also the panels from Australia as the prices quoted locally ranged between outrageous & very expensive. However this was a couple of years ago. Prices may have come down & maybe Cebeco are now doing what they are supposed to do & give a feed in tariff.

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What I did figure out is that the best way of doing it if you are in a Veco zone is to use the old analog meters which simply go backwards when you supply the grid & forwards when you use it. I had no confidence at all that any credits would be paid & was trying to install a system that basically generated just enough to come up with near enough to a zero bill until I discovered that we were in a Cebeco zone & gave up.


Hope this is helpful.

Ian Spiller

I was going to mention what Ian just indicated,but I didn't want to appear like I was down on Filipino's or something.What I was going to say was,I don't have much confidence in the Power company rebating,or paying you for the power you generate.There may be laws in place for this sort of thing...but laws can be unequally applied,and the power companies wield a large amount of...power. ) ).

If I were doing it,I would install for my own use and if I could sell the excess,then great.Otherwise I would consider it a hedge against the ever increasing power bills here.

About systems being much more expensive in the PI..I would expect that after having lived here this long.Anything out of the norm,or that could be considered luxury,is going to be way expensive.If the Philippines was really interested in clean power and all that,they would relax or eliminate tariffs to accomplish (or at least encourage) it.But,we all know how this works by now don't we?

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