Fiance Visa

[pabzta]

Hi

I have been to Philippines 3 times now to visit my fiance,I met all her family and we all get along fine...

Question is I want to bring her to UK on a Fiance visa and I really don't know where to start?

Do I have to apply for her to come on a Fiance visa from UK or does my fiance in Philippines do this?

Or will getting married in Philippines be an easier alternative?

I tried google search and all I get is scam sites and that UK Border website don't make sense to me.

Any help and info will be very much appreciated..

Thanks..

[seram]

The tourist visa paperwork is very simple..The Australian tourist visa is based on similar lines to the English, Canadian and USA system.

The problem for your girl will be trying to prove that she will return to the Philippines at the end of her Vacation.

She will need to show that she has children, a job, business or something that she needs to return to the philippines for.

Convinciing the Embassy she will return home out weighs any part of the tourist visa application.

In my case my girl was 26 with no children, no job and no business.

So how did I do it....

I enrolled my girl in a nursing course which was to start at the end of her Vacation. The down payment was 5,000peso.. We had a document from the college to show she was enrolled to start this course..

At that time she rented an apartment so we paid 3 months in advance on the rent. We had the landlady give a letter stating that my girl had paid 3 months in advance on her rent and her room was waiting for her on her return.

We had a letter from an attorney stating that my girl owned land in Zamboanga City.

This is all we had........We avoided saying she had sick family to return to or anything that may give them reason to think she might attempt to work in Australia.

Your letter of invitation is so important. DO NOT say you wish to take your girl to your country to see if she will like it prior to you getting married or applying for a fiance visa. A holiday is not about your relationship. A vacation is about sight seeing..REMEMBER THIS..

Your letter of invite will state the places you will visit and see.

In my invite I started it by saying I wished to reciprocate the hospitality that my girls family gave me when I visited her. I would take her to the Barrier Reef and Opera House etc etc.. Strictly sight seeing..

Money was not a factor in granting of the visa, as I only had 1,200 dollars in my bank account at the time. I gave them my address and that of my family members she would visit. My God Daughter gave a letter to say she was looking forward to my girl arriving so they could take her shopping and to the Zoo etc.

Finaly...The visa is very simple so dont complicate it. Just convince them she will return back to the Phils....My girls visa was granted after 9 days...cheers

[seram]

Apology....The first reply is meant for a private message. Too many beers here so maybe you can delete that one for me Gene...Cheers

There are a few agents you can use like John Power or Don Watson out of Angeles. They have web sites.

The swagman Hotel in Manila or Angeles is very good also, but they all charge around the 95,000peso excluding the visa application.

Dont rush into getting married before you apply for a visa. It will not help you. It may even prolong the approval. Marriage is not a right for a Visa. You just need to prove that you have a genuine relationship over a period of time.

Your Government website should have details of the the visa process.

Keep googling and sift through the bulldust scam sites...

If you have been in a long term relationship I suggest you get the visa applications by down loading them online and tick off what you have and have not..Then start work on filling in the holes... good luck..cheers

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[Phil_expat]

I do agree, my observation is a tourist visa to the U.S.A. is much harder to get than a fiancé visa. A friend of mine that is married to a pinay, have a child, jointly own a home and car was refused a tourist visa. friends with small income was granted a fiancé’ visa.

[MrSnatcher]

Originally Posted by pabzta

Hi

I have been to Philippines 3 times now to visit my fiance,I met all her family and we all get along fine...

Question is I want to bring her to UK on a Fiance visa and I really don't know where to start?

Do I have to apply for her to come on a Fiance visa from UK or does my fiance in Philippines do this?

Or will getting married in Philippines be an easier alternative?

I tried google search and all I get is scam sites and that UK Border website don't make sense to me.

Any help and info will be very much appreciated..

Thanks..

Well first of all can i say hi to all!
This task of getting to the philippines seems so daunting and im struggling to find the information i need so anything that anybody can help me with would be greatly appreciated i am due to go out in october for the first time,to meet my girlfriend who i must say is a very genuine person and who i have been communicating with since march 2nd thanks very much

[MrSnatcher]

well thanks for the reply and your p . ..ing on my parade as such!i can only be as sure as my gut instinct tells me,its so incredibly hard to find information on the internet about this subject.i spose im just looking to see what other people have come up against while trying.im under no illusion that this could all go wrong but i dont support this girl finacially she has her own house she has 3 kids blah blah,i was just curiopus to see if anyone could give me any advise.cheers

[seram]

Spot On Devo....

I like the way you told it the way it appears.

My past experience tell me they are all genuine and it is impossible to know that in 3 months..

Your advice on the anulment is correct.

cheers

[Gene and Viol]

Originally Posted by MrSnatcher

well thanks for the reply and your p . ..ing on my parade as such!i can only be as sure as my gut instinct tells me,its so incredibly hard to find information on the internet about this subject.i spose im just looking to see what other people have come up against while trying.im under no illusion that this could all go wrong but i dont support this girl finacially she has her own house she has 3 kids blah blah,i was just curiopus to see if anyone could give me any advise.cheers

Mr. Snatcher,

Good to have you with us here in the forum. I'm married and have been living here in the Philippines for a bit over nine years. I can tell you that these guys that have replied to your questions are 100% spot on and they still have not even begun to give you the run-down on being, visiting, and getting involved with a woman here by internet or snail mail. It can work and it can end up being exactly what you are looking for. But you need to take a hard second look at who this person might really be and in what part of the Philippines you will be spending time. Everything you think you know about people and decent human behavior you can throw out and start the learning process over again. The Philippines is truly a different and extremely poor 3rd world country where many will do whatever they must to survive.
I myself did a lot of the same thing (looking) years ago until I found the wonderful wife here that I have.
There are many posts in this forum and other forums as well. Take the time to read as much as you can for they are true and may save you money, time, and even your life. This is a dangerous country for someone to come to trusting anyone--even a seemingly honest and genuine woman.
Use extreme caution but have fun at the same time.


And the best of luck,

Gene

PS.

In another forum, someone was asking me about the dangers of and in Angeles City close to where we live. I will include my reply to their question here below. (Take note: these things happen nationwide and many foreigners go missing and are never found.)

The Post:

Well, basically, many of the cops in Angeles as well as other places - but mostly here are on the take in any way possible. Current example: A pick pocket working in reverse. While you are walking on the sidewalk, the guy puts something in your bag or pocket etc. You know nothing about it till a cop stops you and informs you that you are under arrest on suspicion of having illegal drugs. At police station #4 they do in fact find the drugs the pick pocket placed there. You can not beat the charge in court as the judges are in on the set up most of the time. So, to avoid many years in prison, you must pay upwards of $1,500 US dollars to make the problem go away. There are set ups involving underage girls as well and the list goes on. It can be a very dangerous place to put it nicely. Here are some links that have more on the crime and corruption in this area. A lot of it sounds impossible but most all stories are fact or based on fact.

Here's the sites:

Harry the Horse: Harry

Angeles City Corruption: Angeles

Sex Workers: Philippine Daily Inquirer

These are just a few of the stories and happenings. My wife and I both serve on PDEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) with the federal police in our area and have for about 7 years. So I know these things to be true.
Where we live we are lucky and these things do not happen and the federal agents we work with have all been good people.

[jon1]

Originally Posted by shiredevon

The only way to really safeguard yourself is to follow these rules,
Don't get married, especially not to get a 13a, if you can afford it an SRRV, or you can buy a 13 quota(180k ish), don,t think you can put your name down for one as they are all sold and you will die of old age before you get one,

If you can afford rent first to see if you like an area, there are ways of buying but do not buy anything in your wife or girlfriends name, it may come back to haunt you big time, if your circumstances change your loving partner may change dramatically,

Basically make it so that if they leave it's with what they're wearing and nothing else, making it easy for the next contestant,

Flips will tell you they love you with minutes of meeting them, so that just about sums up their sincerity,
you may be lucky to find a good one but why take the risk.

Enjoy...

You are spot on!

No commitment until you have been thru lots of tests and trials. You will be amazed how many will say anything to win you over and then empty out your cash box (just that if you are lucky). Lots of Jeckyls and Hydes here.

A rental will definitely keep them at bay as it's in your name. And there is no commitment to a specific area/island. Many find out that their initial dream spot has a lot of pitfalls that they didn't think of/nor are comfortable with (lack of decent medical care nearby, unstable power, etc. etc.). You have to figure out what you are willing to live without (western standards) and roll with it.

You can even look at long term leases (50+ years) once you do find your dream retirement place. Just look at it as a purchase and that it will be cheaper per year rental-wise than if you went year by year. You could always sub-let the property if you have to move on....

[Phil_expat]

Originally Posted by shiredevon

The only way to really safeguard yourself is to follow these rules,
Don't get married, especially not to get a 13a, if you can afford it an SRRV, or you can buy a 13 quota(180k ish), don,t think you can put your name down for one as they are all sold and you will die of old age before you get one,

If you can afford rent first to see if you like an area, there are ways of buying but do not buy anything in your wife or girlfriends name, it may come back to haunt you big time, if your circumstances change your loving partner may change dramatically,

Basically make it so that if they leave it's with what they're wearing and nothing else, making it easy for the next contestant,

Flips will tell you they love you with minutes of meeting them, so that just about sums up their sincerity,
you may be lucky to find a good one but why take the risk.

Enjoy...

I do agree about knowing the woman before getting married. This really takes years and even then you might not know her. A wise man told me you never know a woman till the breakup. Unless for a good reason better to live together. If one does get married I do not understand why you said do not get a 13a? What is a 13 quota?
Renting is the best. One is mobile and can leave an undesirable location quickly. I have a friend married three times in the Philippines built a home each time and lost those homes three times!
Are you saying that women are not honest when saying “I love you”? I have been told that at least a dozen times! Are they all lying? I was sure it was my great looks and personality!!!