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I have updated my web page on border crossings with what information I have. I have been dealing with Banercito over vehicle permits and it is like pulling teeth.

Anyway here it is: If anyone can add or correct anything it would be appreciated.


PART 1

Vehicle requirements:

Permits can now be obtained on line. See instruccionesIITV

Early reports indicate this process is working well.

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You require a passport, a credit card, drivers license & all your vehicle registration. If the vehicle is leased, you require the lease agreement plus a legally notarized permission to take the vehicle into Mexico, even if you own the company. It is best to have this in Spanish. Make 2 copies of everything before leaving home, it will speed things up. There is usually a copy machine at the border. You will need copies of your tourist card, but it will speed things up if that is all you need. At the border you will have to purchase tourist cards & a vehicle permit. Allow about $100 for everything, other than your vehicle deposit which I describe later on. Try to have $100 US worth of Mexican Peso's, for incidentals, until you can find an ATM.

Note: Under new rules as of Spring 2011, you will have to pay a deposit of $200-$400 depending on vehicle year (<2000 $200, 2001-2006 $300, 2007 & newer $400). This is to ensure the vehicle is returned to the US. The money will be returned or credited back to your credit card when you leave the country. You have to use either Visa, MC or US Cash. I have seen reports of problems getting the credit card credited on exit, I recommend using cash. You will be refunded cash on the spot upon exit.

It can take up to 4 hours to clear the border, but an hour is more usual. Please note that at some crossings you have to do all this, maybe 20 km south of the border, rather than at the border itself. Vehicle permits are not required for Baja or for the northern part of Sonora State. You still need a tourist card. Even so, make sure you have all the legal documents for your vehicle.

Vehicle permits are good for 6 months, although you can get a 10 year one for some RV's (Class A's & C's & some Class B's, plus 5th Wheels & Trailers (but not the tow vehicle). This may not be a good idea, unless you plan to leave the vehicle in Mexico for a few years and not bring it back into the US. It can cause you a lot of grief if you write the vehicle off or sell it sometime during those 10 years. However, it does allow you to leave the RV in Mexico & fly home. If you do write off a vehicle in Mexico, get the hunk of windshield with the sticker attached , plus ensure the police & insurance reports show the vehicle VIN number. Unless you turn these in at the border, you will not be permitted to take another vehicle into Mexico at a later date. If you do have an accident, phone your insurance provider immediately and do not admit blame. They will provide a lawyer. You may or may not need a separate permits for motorcycles & ATV's. It depends on the engine size. If you have a scooter, the word for that is "motoneta".

Up to 3 items can be added to a vehicle permit, including trailers, scooters, ATV's (Maybe a Truck Camper) but see the "Gray Area's" section below.

So, photocopy the following

1) Your passport front page

2) Any vehicle registrations

3) Your birth certificate

4) Photocopies of your drivers license (or licenses if more than one vehicle) - front & back

5) Photocopies of your credit card

6) Copies of notarized permission to take any leased or company vehicle into Mexico.

You may or may not need all of those. You will have to get photocopies of your Mexican visa at the border itself.

It is very important to get a receipt for your vehicle permit when you cross back into the US, no matter what crossing you use. Failure to return the sticker will prevent you from entering Mexico in future and even if you have returned it, their record keeping system is far from perfect, so you should retain a receipt. You cannot return it at all border crossings. You can no longer return at Tecate, for example.

Crossing back into the USA can be a 2 or 3 hour experience. You may not bring any Pork or Chicken products across and some vegetables are not allowed, specifically potatoes & avocado's. If your remove the pit from the avocado's & cook the potatoes, they are OK. Most fruits are prohibited.

Please note your vehicle may be searched by US border control on the US side and again by Mexican border patrol on the Mexican side. They are looking for guns going south & drugs going north. Both governments stepped this up in 2010.

Continued in Part 2

Thanks for all the great information. Unfortunately I cant get the site to open from you link to register on line. Any chance you can send another one or tell me where to look? How long does it take to do it this way?

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You got it to the tee. Better to buy a Mexican car a than the hassle of crossing the border. Bring your thing down in your car, return and sell it and then use the cash to buy Mexican. Good cars, good prices right now and with Mexican platesyou will recieve less troubleon the highways and streets from the police. Really!

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The provided link is correct, I just tested it. Supposedly from reports I have you get the permit within about 10 days. I am not going to do it since I have a 50cc scooter that I suspect they will classify as a vehicle and cause issues. Getting the permit at the border they have simply added it to my truck permit in the past & hopefully will this year as well. I will remove its plate before I cross, so they hopefully simply assume it is used off road, which it more or less is. I keep it off highways, its mainly as an emergency vehicle to go for help on if I break down.

BTW in response to the individual who flew out of the country & left a vehicle with a 180 permit behind, chances are nothing will happen. Lots of people seem to do it, but it is technically not permitted. I suspect once you have removed the car from the country they will not really care. Play ignorant if they do.
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You got it to the tee. Better to buy a Mexican car a than the hassle of crossing the border. Bring your thing down in your car, return and sell it and then use the cash to buy Mexican. Good cars, good prices right now and with Mexican platesyou will recieve less troubleon the highways and streets from the police. Really!

Have to disagree a little bit about US plates vs. Mexican plates...

I have just completed a 40,000 mile drive around, through and
in about every corner of Mexico, I was stopped once by Federales
who where interested in my vehicle (2011 Subaru) personal California
plates having never seen the whale tail plates, no ticket no problem...

when coming to military or police road stoppages they see the
California plate and I am waived through while autos with Mexican plates in front and
behind me are pulled over and searched....that's my story and I,m sicken to it...

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Sorry, Mexicodrifter, but those of us with visas and 'importadas temporales' issued since the new deposit rules, may extend and protect our deposits indefinitely. It is done by writing to Aduana in Mexico city, with a copy of one's renewed visa card, within 15 days of such renewal.
There may be a specific form to use and, here at Chapala, one of our occasional posters, Intercasa, can provide assistance, if needed.
I am in this situation right now. I renewed my FM3 yesterday, and now, I assume, must let Aduana know that I have had my FM3 renewed. I only have 15 days to do this, and assume that it must be done by mail. OR??????? I do not have a specific address in Mexico City where I can send it. I assume a copy of renewed FM3 along with copies of receipts, and permit are sufficient????? Appreciate some information including a specific address where I can send everything. We are in Guayabitos, Nayarit, and I tried to find an Aduana office in Puerto Vallarta, but there was only a SAT office, and they implied that I must drive to Guadalajara, in person, to get this done at a "full service" Aduana office. I would rather forfeit the deposit, and reconsider ever bringing a future vehicle into Mexico. If I can mail it, I assume that Courier would be the most expedient method of doing it. And, if I do, will they respond so that I have something official to produce at the border when they tell me that I unfortunately must lose my deposit due to non compliance??? My first time posting on this site and hopefully can find a response if one is posted. Alternatively, or concurrently could someone send me something direct to my docmiller@shaw.ca email address. There are a large number of people in our area who are as clueless about this as I am. I can pass helpful information along to them. Thank a bundle. Hola Intercasa. The post indicated that you had mailing information. Also appreciate a form if available. Gracias.


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Sorry, Mexicodrifter, but those of us with visas and 'importadas temporales' issued since the new deposit rules, may extend and protect our deposits indefinitely. It is done by writing to Aduana in Mexico city, with a copy of one's renewed visa card, within 15 days of such renewal.
There may be a specific form to use and, here at Chapala, one of our occasional posters, Intercasa, can provide assistance, if needed.

I am wondering if you have an update on the new deposit rules in relation to changing immigration satus from tourist to FM3 status while in Mexico.

I entered Mexico with a vehicle in early Dec on a tourist visa. I am planning to get my FM3 (or whatever it is called now) in Feb of 2012. As it stands now, I have to remove my car withing 6 months. Can I get this extended while here in Mexico along with getting my FM3, or do I have to remove the car and enter again? One of the main reasons I am getting my fM3 is to be able to leave the vehicle here and quit with the drive. I do not want to forfiet my deposit.

In your post you mentioned writing to the Aduan in DF. Do you have an address and what do I say?

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Your vehicle remains legal with your current 'importada' sticker, as long as your immigration status is current. In other words; when you get a visa or renew a visa, the car continues to be legal.
To protect your deposit, I understand that you must notify Aduana of your visa renewal. I don't have the contact information; sorry. You might check with Aduana in person, or online for more information.

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Your vehicle remains legal with your current 'importada' sticker, as long as your immigration status is current. In other words; when you get a visa or renew a visa, the car continues to be legal.
To protect your deposit, I understand that you must notify Aduana of your visa renewal. I don't have the contact information; sorry. You might check with Aduana in person, or online for more information.
Im planning on changing my immigration status AFTER I entered...from tourist to FM3. Where is the Aduna I must talk to. I am on the coast of Nayarite. thanks again.

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Im planning on changing my immigration status AFTER I entered...from tourist to FM3. Where is the Aduna I must talk to. I am on the coast of Nayarite. thanks again.
It is in Bucerias, near the Decameron Hotel..........no e in Nayarit..............

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