Oaxaca?

[mcse9073]

Only went to keep the small children with the momma. She was refused residency in the USA. So we went back. Lived all over Mexico its rough. Children were so small . US gvt said kids could stay in the USA but momma had to go back. So I moved the whole family back. Point is that if you have money and are a tourist your welcome, but if your a gringo that is trying to move next door with meger income-you will see how much we americans are hated down there. I have more experiences as well bad ones in Mexico. Most the people that go down there and have problems well its too late then they learn the hard way. I know the people in The Consulado down there in Mexico City, and Oaxaca City. Lots of reeeeely dangerous stuff going on there. Go on down and when it happens you will wish to God you were back in USA. I tried to file a missing persons report on my wife and they said they could put me in jail for letting her away from the house as she was probably mentaly ill. Your leave USA for Mexico either you do not have experience or haven't learned yet. "YET" Everyone likes to think they are Experienced in Mexico. Well they just cut off a bunch of peoples heads down there. better wake up.

[mcse9073]

Originally Posted by kazslo

Who is 'they' that are doing all of this? Why YOU, there are plenty more gringos in oaxaca than just you.

Sounds like a load of malarkey considering all 4 of your posts resurrect old happy oaxaca opinion posts with very unpleasant comments. Hopefully anyone reading these threads considers other sources.

Sorry if you do not like the truth. It happened and more, now I am with my kids in the USA and my wife is running the streets in mX. Just trying to figure a way of saving 30 yrs of my work invested in a property there. Its a 120k dollar property in Zicatela will sell for 50k usd.

Not trying to run anyone or anyplace down. Just sharing experience. Try to keep someone else from suffering what we did.

[kazslo]

Originally Posted by mcse9073

Only went to keep the small children with the momma. She was refused residency in the USA. So we went back. Lived all over Mexico its rough. Children were so small . US gvt said kids could stay in the USA but momma had to go back. So I moved the whole family back. Point is that if you have money and are a tourist your welcome, but if your a gringo that is trying to move next door with meger income-you will see how much we americans are hated down there. I have more experiences as well bad ones in Mexico. Most the people that go down there and have problems well its too late then they learn the hard way. I know the people in The Consulado down there in Mexico City, and Oaxaca City. Lots of reeeeely dangerous stuff going on there. Go on down and when it happens you will wish to God you were back in USA. I tried to file a missing persons report on my wife and they said they could put me in jail for letting her away from the house as she was probably mentaly ill. Your leave USA for Mexico either you do not have experience or haven't learned yet. "YET" Everyone likes to think they are Experienced in Mexico. Well they just cut off a bunch of peoples heads down there. better wake up.

Oh god. The extremist attitude really draws me away from understanding you are trying to say...what is your big message here? If you live in mexico you will be brutally tortured and killed, along with your family?

I am not in Mexico on retirement, and moved from the US about a year ago on a rather limited 'investment'. I don't live in a luxurious part of town, and my industry would be considered far from the safest . And what experienced is a lot of great people, and as with anywhere a few bad apples. About 80% of people don't really care where I originated, and of those 20% my coming from the US makes for great conversation. Which leaves my question: who are these people you refer to as "they", and why "you"?

What I gathered from your other thread was that your wife left you and your family. That is horribly unfortunate, nothing I would want to experience, but to base your assessment of the country on the action of one is extreme and unreasonable.

[mcse9073]

My asessment is 6 yrs and multiple cities and many horrible experiences. Apparently you haven't.

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by mcse9073

My asessment is 6 yrs and multiple cities and many horrible experiences. Apparently you haven't.

you've obviously had a bad personal experience there, and I'm sorry for you that you have

but is your experience typical?

[mcse9073]

Probably not for the majority. But all foreigners will be targeted because of money. If you have money it goes alot easier. If you do not have enough to build a house and a 7ft wall around it I would not recommend. Most all mexican people that are not in literal poverty live where there is some form of security. I have been struck twice in supermarkets there, Have known neighbors killed. It just goes on and on. I stayed only to keep the children with the mother as they were really little when I decided to go down. My wife had violated a deportation order so she could not be in the USA. The kids now after all the horrible experiences hate Mexico and even though their mother is there are not wanting to return and will tell you so. Its just scary down there. These people that do not have experience think they do. Eventually they will unless they are wealthy. I would have a blast in my younger years there but now I like being safe with my kids with or with out a wife.. Safety is priority , learned that down there the hard way..

[jr2448]

Well, I can only speak from MY experience so what I can tell you is that I have a wife in Oaxaca and I have traveled more than 20 times down there since 2006. I have been all over Oaxaca City, been in most of the towns outside the City, such as Tlacolula, Ixtlan de Juarez, Villa de Etla etc etc. I've been to Huatulco and El Istmo. And what I can say is that not ONCE did I have anything remotely resembling a bad experience. I am a pure, complete gringo, my wife is all Mexican, so we go where she knows, which of course is among Mexicans! If they do indeed hate Americans, they do so in a strange fashion, namely in being very friendly and kind. Again, I can only speak for myself, so I am not refuting anyone if they claim horrible experiences, but 20+ trips with all positive outcomes would seem to me as if Oaxaca is quite OK. If anyone wants to know about Oaxaca and is very interested in experiencing what it's like there, my advice would be to read all posts concerning it, both good and bad, then decide which ones seem more credible to you, and, if you feel comfortable, just head on down and check it out for yourself ( my admittedly biased opinion says you'll love it!)

[jr2448]

I know that Oaxaca has a rather sizable expat community. So, if they are indeed there, that must mean that they ALL are tremendously wealthy or, if not so wealthy, are victims of "targeting" by "them". To generalize a whole area of people based on one person's unfortunate experiences is just not healthy. ( I know someone who moved from my area, eastern Pennsylvania, to Chicago. This person had their home broken into in Chicago, so, I guess that this proves that all Pennsylvanians are going to be "targeted" by "them" in Chicago).

[mcse9073]

Originally Posted by jr2448

I know that Oaxaca has a rather sizable expat community. So, if they are indeed there, that must mean that they ALL are tremendously wealthy or, if not so wealthy, are victims of "targeting" by "them". To generalize a whole area of people based on one person's unfortunate experiences is just not healthy. ( I know someone who moved from my area, eastern Pennsylvania, to Chicago. This person had their home broken into in Chicago, so, I guess that this proves that all Pennsylvanians are going to be "targeted" by "them" in Chicago).

Another reply from an all knowing. I was warned before I went down and wouldn't listen. I do not have an experience. I have "experiences" down there all bad various states and cities that would take hours to explain. Get on down there and get with em. Enjoy the filth everywhere! Here is a fact , they hate Americans and blame all their troubles on us. My daughter was held down in kinder and choked and had her blond hair cut a bald spot on the top of her head. Yes I hate them for what they did. Experience after experience-wife raped twice, lost her mind, property theft, me poisoned and in hospitol, beaten by 5 mexicans at a time in front of my kids. All to run us out which they did. Wanna hear more - there are plenty to tell! Enjoy bubba! My lawyer here in the USA is Mexican, her husband is in Mexico, has a house in Mexico, she said everything in Mexico is a scam. I lost everything down there except my kids. Paid $2000.00 worth of silver liberties to get the kids out even though they are Americans born in america. Had the millitary down there rip my dash out of a $40,000.00 2006 4x4 Cummins Big Horn. Kids scared to death numerous check point with army crawling all over the kids in the truck with mom and Dad out side. Millitary swarming Zicatela setting up check points inside the colony. Have had neighbors from other countries held in their home and tortured and killed for money. Have had all our animals poisoned. Local community dubbed us possessed by demons and ostrisized! Workers hired for const work but refuse to work and do intentional property damage, stating clearly that I as their employer do not have a right to tell them what to do because I am not Mexican out right stealing labor-scams to steal property tooo many to mention. Using the threat of taking your children to intimidate you off your property. Its bad down there-good luck. I was told that alot of Americans were disappearing down there and they were not finding any of them. I do not see all this in the news but is what I was told by a little bird.-GOOD LUCK. I decided to repatriate to my own kind-my kids are happy now even though their mother is gone they do not want to return there!

[Balboa]

I am full blooded Mexican, and can confirm the high rate of corruption. Its bad down there, my dad will not do business down there because the high risk does not warrent any reward.

I also dont think retirees have a full picute of the scene down there. You're basically on an extended vacation, with money. It's not the same if you're trying to make a living down there.

As far as this poster, it ashame to go through such hardship. Similar storys have happened to my family members (who are Mexican). Some ppl are desparate and will do ANYTHING for money. Its a big world, and some people are horrifically evil.

However, in regards to the previous poster, you claim to be American, but your English sounds broken and makes me wonder if you are trolling for responses

Anyway, good luck in the rest of your travel. Life is beautiful, enjoy it