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Does anyone know where to find the rules for selling a US plated car in Mexico to a Mexican? I know my car ( 2000 Subaru Outback Wagon AWD ) will fall into the 10 year old on Jan.1st. and I know Subaru dealers are sprouting up all over Mexico so I just wondered how much hassel it might be, thanks Rick

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There is one simple rule, which you accepted when you temporarily imported your Subaru:
You CAN NOT sell your US Plated car TO A MEXICAN, OR ANYONE ELSE IN MEXICO.
OK, Now that I have your attention, I hope I'll save you a lot of legal heartache. You can't even let a Mexican drive your car without you being in the passenger seat; not even a valet. There are strict laws that you must be aware of. One of the most important is that you have agreed and posted a bond to insure that YOU will remove your car from Mexico. You have to do that and sell it in the USA, not in Mexico. WHENEVER, you leave Mexico, be sure to stop at 'Aduana' and get the import sticker removed AND get the receipt. Even if a customs agent says you don't need to, if you are returning, he is wrong and you can really end up in a mess if you can't bring the car back to remove it legally. So, insist.
If the car were manufactured in a NAFTA country, you might be able to import it permanently, but it is difficult, very expensive and a big hassle, seldom worth the trouble.
There are real horror stories that have happened to people who have violated these rules.

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There is one simple rule, which you accepted when you temporarily imported your Subaru:
You CAN NOT sell your US Plated car TO A MEXICAN, OR ANYONE ELSE IN MEXICO.
OK, Now that I have your attention, I hope I'll save you a lot of legal heartache. You can't even let a Mexican drive your car without you being in the passenger seat; not even a valet. There are strict laws that you must be aware of. One of the most important is that you have agreed and posted a bond to insure that YOU will remove your car from Mexico. You have to do that and sell it in the USA, not in Mexico. WHENEVER, you leave Mexico, be sure to stop at 'Aduana' and get the import sticker removed AND get the receipt. Even if a customs agent says you don't need to, if you are returning, he is wrong and you can really end up in a mess if you can't bring the car back to remove it legally. So, insist.
If the car were manufactured in a NAFTA country, you might be able to import it permanently, but it is difficult, very expensive and a big hassle, seldom worth the trouble.
There are real horror stories that have happened to people who have violated these rules.
point. several years ago i crossed back over into Texas at a differant bridge. next year when i tried to enter MX refused . they said i didn,t bring the car back to Texas the first trip. NOTE = i was driving the same car. it was sitting within "eyesight" of them and they refused. they made me sign the LA. title over to my wife and then let her enter with it . "go figure" !
Bottom line = don,t even think about trying to play games with mexican officials.

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Why are you even thinking about doing such a thing? BTW, Subaru started selling in Mexico City in 2006. Now they have a dealer in Guadalajara. They don't have parts for any Subaru manufactured before that time. When we came to Mexico driving our Subaru Legacy wagon in 2005 we were tough out of luck for a couple of weeks at a time waiting for parts to arrive from San Diego, CA. So it isn't even a good idea to come here with a Subaru made before 2006 or 2007. Hope you will rethink the whole thing.

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There is one simple rule, which you accepted when you temporarily imported your Subaru:
You CAN NOT sell your US Plated car TO A MEXICAN, OR ANYONE ELSE IN MEXICO.
OK, Now that I have your attention, I hope I'll save you a lot of legal heartache. You can't even let a Mexican drive your car without you being in the passenger seat; not even a valet. There are strict laws that you must be aware of. One of the most important is that you have agreed and posted a bond to insure that YOU will remove your car from Mexico. You have to do that and sell it in the USA, not in Mexico. WHENEVER, you leave Mexico, be sure to stop at 'Aduana' and get the import sticker removed AND get the receipt. Even if a customs agent says you don't need to, if you are returning, he is wrong and you can really end up in a mess if you can't bring the car back to remove it legally. So, insist.
If the car were manufactured in a NAFTA country, you might be able to import it permanently, but it is difficult, very expensive and a big hassle, seldom worth the trouble.
There are real horror stories that have happened to people who have violated these rules.
I would like to leave my vehicle in storage over the summer/fall when I leave this spring to use again next winter. I will be on a FMT visa, so I guess the car will be also. What kind of horror stories can one expect if they do not remove a car within the 180 days allowed under the FMT visa? I know that the person who originally imported the car cannot import another car until the original is removed. Are there other ramifications of keeping a car in Mexico beyond the allotted time? Will the importer be able to re-enter the country WITHOUT a car, or is it recorded on the passport? I'm not looking for advice on how to break the law, just information about what happens if I do. Thank you

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If you drove down and flew or bused back there would be no problems. The only possible problem might be is when you drove the car back a year or two later. They "might" catch the time difference on the computer

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You may not leave your car behind in Mexico with only an FMT tourist permit. That is one of the conditions of your 'importada temporal', which is only valid as long as your immigration status is legal. Once you leave Mexico, your FMT becomes void and is actually collected if you fly out, making the car in the country illegally. If stolen, used in a crime, injured property or a person, you would remain liable and the vehicle subject to permanent confiscation.
The Mexican computer system has become much more capable and, this year, all of the agents have been replaced with university educated, stricter border employees. What would you say, if asked, "Where is your car?" the next time you tried to enter Mexico?
To leave the country without your vehicle, you must have an FM2 or FM3 visa. Then, you can come and go at will.
If you were caught, as in Spark's scenario, you would be subject to heavy fines and possible confiscation.


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You may not leave your car behind in Mexico with only an FMT tourist permit. That is one of the conditions of your 'importada temporal', which is only valid as long as your immigration status is legal. Once you leave Mexico, your FMT becomes void and is actually collected if you fly out, making the car in the country illegally. If stolen, used in a crime, injured property or a person, you would remain liable and the vehicle subject to permanent confiscation.
The Mexican computer system has become much more capable and, this year, all of the agents have been replaced with university educated, stricter border employees. What would you say, if asked, "Where is your car?" the next time you tried to enter Mexico?
To leave the country without your vehicle, you must have an FM2 or FM3 visa. Then, you can come and go at will.
If you were caught, as in Spark's scenario, you would be subject to heavy fines and possible confiscation.
gotchya....do I understand that the vehicle is now registered on your passport when you enter with a vehicle?

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Your 'importada temporal' is tied to your immigration document and your passport number.
Enforcement is getting more strict since the replacement of the border officials earlier this year.

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As earlier notes said, you can't sell US plated car in Mexico.
I have seen cars for sale in the Atencion (English paper in San Miguel) where deal was to go to the border and buy in the US.
I know the rules but in one case, I actually overstayed the 180 days. I went to the border and explained that was late, they did cancel visa/car and reissued with out an issue but not sure that is common.
Rather than leave in Mexico, a number of our friends drive the one day to Harlingen Texas and leave in long term parking at the airport. This has double value as Southwest flies to Harlingen and costs typically half or better than airports in the bajio. Costs are reasonable but you need to ensure you don't have a battery problem on return.

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