benefits of FM2

[pvtexmex]

I recently got my FM2 after completing 5 years with an FM3. I intend to apply for my inmigrado after completing my FM2. I am wondering if anyone knows if there are any benfits with an FM2, other than the right to apply for inmigrado, that I did not have with my FM3.

[RVGRINGO]

You will also have the right to apply for naturalization.

[pvtexmex]

But you first have to have your inmigrado, before applying for naturaliztion, right.
I have friends who have their citizenship and did not go through the inmigrado step or even the FM2. They went straight from their FM3 to natualization, but this was several years ago. I believe that the rules have changed since then.

[RVGRINGO]

In the past, some folks did get naturalized from an FM3, but no more. Now, you have to have an FM2 for five years. I think the purchase of land near the coast or a border will still require that a foreigner use a trust. Once naturalized, I think you could get a straight deed. Of course, this does not apply inland.

[maesonna]

The inmigrado is not an optional step, instead, after 4 years of renewing your FM2 (refrendo), at the fifth year, it is not a renewal, rather it is application for inmigrado status. The documents you have to submit for that are the same ones that you were submitting over the previous 4 years for the renewal, so it is not complicated at all.

The great advantage is that after this, you longer have to go for annual renewals. No more annual pilgrimages to Migración, and no more annual fees.

[pvtexmex]

Thank you. I had noticed the declaratoria de inmigrado near the back of the FM2. I do hope that, as you say, it is not complicated at all.

[arturo_b]

It seems to me that maesona has expressed the issue precisely. One does not move to a different country to pretend they're not living in a different country. Either you're here on vacation or you're here for a short time or you're here to put down roots and, dammit, the country has a right to know which you have in mind.

I have had to deal with the immigration people from the U.S. and from Mexico. To my mind, the Mexicans are infinitely more intelligent. The U.S. treats immigration in black-or-white terms; Mexico respects it as a process of acculturation.

The attitude I've found among those in Immigration in the U.S. is "So why the hell should I let you in here?"

(This might be simply a Tijuana problem because our local immigration boss, Adele Fasano, has hired hundreds of her Philippino family members to protect the U.S. from foreign invasion and her Flips are nothing if not diligent in their duty My experiences at the border in El Paso were more positive.)

For those of us who would live in Mexico, however, the question is more along the lines of: are you here on holiday, for a short time, or to stay? Declare yourself and please follow up on what you say.

What's wrong with that? It's pure ISO-9000.

[maesonna]

@Arturo_B, although I don't disagree with your opinions, I wasn’t aiming to express any issue, just stating the facts. Not being American nor ever aspring to be one, I hadn’t really given the comparison much thought.

Now as for my “patria,” and its immigration problems, that’s a whole ’nother issue, which I won’t highjack the thread by getting into here.

[kebek]

Originally Posted by pvtexmex

I recently got my FM2 after completing 5 years with an FM3. I intend to apply for my inmigrado after completing my FM2. I am wondering if anyone knows if there are any benfits with an FM2, other than the right to apply for inmigrado, that I did not have with my FM3.

As far as I know, the only reason to have an FM2 is to be on the way to live in Mexico permanently after completing the 5 years requirements. If someone does not want to live in Mexico permanently, he should stay on an FM3 which is cheaper to renew every year.

You say that you intend to apply for inmigrado after completing your FM2. Make sure that you make that application within the limits of the law which is: within the six months following the expiration date of the fourth endorsement.

An example:
Someone received an FM2 on 12 May 2008 so the expiration date will be 12 May 2013, a total of 5 years, right? As the first year (2008) is not stamped the first endorsement will be May 2009, and the fourth will be May 2012, right?

According to article 190, I have to apply within the six months following the expiration date of the fourth endorsement—in our case between 12 May 2012 and 12 November 2012? In other words, the application should be done within the first six months of the fifth year being on FM2 and not within the six months after the fifth year.

That is my interepretation. BE CAREFUL because on the internet many "experts" in immigration (some lawyers as well) do not have that interepretation. They pretend that you have to way until the end of your 5 years to apply for inmigrado. To me, that means that my FM2 would be expired therefore I would have missed my chance to be within the limits of the law.

Someone tell me if I'm wrong.

[pvtexmex]

If it is within six months after the expiration date of the fourth endorsement or renewal wouldn't you then have until November 12, 2013? The endorsement for the fourth renewal has the date of May 12, 2012, but that doesn't expire until May 12, 2013. I'm not arguing. I just want to understand this.