Expats in Uruapan? - Page 5

Isla Verde · #41 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JoParsons

OMG another one

Another one, Jo. Do you mean someone else who has posted some negative information about Uruapan? While I am not one who appreciates media and individuals who focus only on the current problems in Mexico caused by the drug wars, it is a fact that certain parts of Mexico are suffering from the actions of the narcotraficantes, and, unfortunately, Uruapan is in one of these areas. It isn't wise to totally discount posts that mention possible problems and dangers in your new home.

Hound Dog · #42 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TundraGreen

This thread is skating on the edge of including personal attacks. Please keep the discussion focussed on the issues and refrain from editorializing about your fellow posters or their choices or what they should or should not do or have done.

TG:

I don´t see where this thread has become an attack on anyone.

This Jo person has moved to the city of Uruapan and tells us she in unfamiliar with the place. Who moves to a place as violent as Uruapan without any knowledge of where they are moving? That doesn´t make any sense. The fact is that Uruapan has been the scene of much obscene violence peripheral to the disgusting drug trade in the state of Michoacan. Michoacan is a state currently beset by incredible violence. Who would move there unless they were incredibly naive?

OK, folks. Tell me I´m wrong. Not Jo; she is living among the clouds. Those of you with real experience pass it on.

AlanMexicali · #43 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hound Dog

TG:

I don´t see where this thread has become an attack on anyone.

This Jo person has moved to the city of Uruapan and tells us she in unfamiliar with the place. Who moves to a place as violent as Uruapan without any knowledge of where they are moving? That doesn´t make any sense. The fact is that Uruapan has been the scene of much obscene violence peripheral to the disgusting drug trade in the state of Michoacan. Michoacan is a state currently beset by incredible violence. Who would move there unless they were incredibly naive?

OK, folks. Tell me I´m wrong. Not Jo; she is living among the clouds. Those of you with real experience pass it on.

I was very cautious when Mexicali and TJ were having the war against two rival cartels, the Federal Police and Military. We got used to the news reports and seeing swat like dressed caravans of police and military flying through the streets and Federal Police dressed like this having breaks in our corner OXXO with machine guns and uzis and ski masks. I really thought it would never end. However it did end, at least in Mexicali more than 2 years ago and is a fraction of what it was in TJ. In 2006 in TJ most of the higher ranking Municipal police were assassinated and a couple State Secretaries etc. I passed by an assassination of a ex State Secretary in Mexicali a few minutes after it happen at 12 noon on a Saturday beside a big mall at the Pemex. Drove past 3 gun battles where they were firing into houses and the TV news showed many more. Saw a car in the middle of the street with drugs piled high on the roof and surrounded my police etc. The narcos would drive around in made to look like the Federal Police black Ford Expeditions with the siren, uniforms and light flashing at one point that people didn't know if they were real or not on their way to do battle with the other cartel. The cartels moto is "Plata o plomo" "Silver or lead" when approaching people they want to corrupt.

TundraGreen · #44 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hound Dog

TG:

I don´t see where this thread has become an attack on anyone.

This Jo person has moved to the city of Uruapan and tells us she in unfamiliar with the place. Who moves to a place as violent as Uruapan without any knowledge of where they are moving? That doesn´t make any sense. The fact is that Uruapan has been the scene of much obscene violence peripheral to the disgusting drug trade in the state of Michoacan. Michoacan is a state currently beset by incredible violence. Who would move there unless they were incredibly naive?

OK, folks. Tell me I´m wrong. Not Jo; she is living among the clouds. Those of you with real experience pass it on.

Chapala was the site of a grenade attack in a bar not long ago. The Chapala-Guadalajara Carretera has been blockaded by narcotraficantes. Are all the ex-pats living near Lake Chapala naive? There is violence in lots of places. I would not hesitate to live in Michoacan or in Uruapan. I spent some time in Ciudad Juarez this year. It is billed as the murder capital of the world. But nevertheless, ordinary people live ordinary lives there. The winner of the Torreon marathon last year was from Ciudad Juarez. It is not all drug gangs. Jo had extensive discussions with someone who lived in Uruapan recently. She knew what she was doing.

Hound Dog · #45 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JoParsons

The world has so many idiots in it. .... That I have been on this site for months and just now find an idiot is amazing.....

Welcome to Earth.

JoParsons · #46 (**permalink**) 3rd November 2011, 02:47 PM

Well, I'm in Uruapan and I have the most awful cold . . . my resistance must be down and I've probably come across some new "bugs" here that don't exist in the US. Or . . . often I get sick with a bad cold because I need to slow down. So, easy does it for a couple days. My friend's friend's daughter can't help me until this weekend anyway. Okay, I'm off to find Mucinex(mex).

Mas tarde,

RVGRINGO · #47 (**permalink**) 3rd November 2011, 02:50 PM

Look for "Mucosolvan" in any farmacia or large grocery with a farmacia.

AlanMexicali · #48 (**permalink**) 3rd November 2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JoParsons

Well, I'm in Uruapan and I have the most awful cold . . . my resistance must be down and I've probably come across some new "bugs" here that don't exist in the US. Or . . . often I get sick with a bad cold because I need to slow down. So, easy does it for a couple days. My friend's friend's daughter can't help me until this weekend anyway. Okay, I'm off to find Mucinex(mex).

Mas tarde,

I just got over a bad cold 2 weeks ago , probably a respiratory infection, I took Amoxicillin in Mexico labeled Amoxicilina/Acido clavulanico for respiratory infections. I was told to get Antiflu Des after the first days of feeling bad and it worked as well as anything in the US. The time before I took 'Next' tabs $30 pesos or less, and it worked also very well.

Hound Dog · #49 (**permalink**) 3rd November 2011, 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=TundraGreen;640426]Chapala was the site of a grenade attack in a bar not long ago. The Chapala-Guadalajara Carretera has been blockaded by narcotraficantes. Are all the ex-pats living near Lake Chapala naive? QUOTE]

Well, not ALL of them.

JoParsons · #50 (**permalink**) 21st February 2012, 06:30 PM

I now live in Uruapan and LOVE IT. However, I am adversely affected by the high altitude. I didn't know I would be; having lived the last several years in low-lying places. Damn! If you don't have that problem, Uruapan loves to celebrate with what they call fireworks. I'm getting used to it. The traditional dress of the mercado vendors is absolutely beautiful. The people are so friendly, but few speak English. So, my Spanish is improving. But, when it matters, I can find someone to either help me in English or translate for me. Cost of living is low and if you LOVE avocados and mangos, come here.

Now, I'm looking for anyone living or having lived in Tepic. Low elevation, but not on the coast. A little warm for me, but everything else sure seems to click with my priorities. Can anyone give me any information?