Marrying a Mexican Citizen

[MJB5293]

i hve been living in Juriquilla, Queretaro for 6 months now i will be married in Las vegas on Nov 18th to a wonderful mexican woman who is retired from premex together we have a great income nice home BMW and my Lincoln town car.
iam on a fm2. after marriage what should change

[Joycee]

Congratulations on your forthcoming marraige. I currently live in Las Vegas so if there are any questions you have about Las Vegas let me know.

Joycee

[ele]

Originally Posted by Tom O'Brien

My oldest child was born in Mexico. The hospital issued a birth certificate without a fuss. The US Consulate in Guadalajara issued a State Department birth certificate on the spot for a nominal fee within 30 minutes. Then due to a pregnancy complication the doctor who delivered our first suggested that we go to the USA four months prior to the expected arrival date. He suggested the New Mexico State University hospital. Our second came CZ. New Mexico issued a birth certificate that was totally bilingual - English/Español. Each and every line on the certificate in English was repeated in Español. The Mexcian authorities would not except it insisted that we had it translated. A very costly song n dance act. They had us going from office to office, paying mordida <sp> brides and receiving no receipts. We spent 3-4 days running all over Guadalajara and dropped a couple hundred dollars as we went. Finally the approval to except and translate the bilingual certificate was granted. Mexican male friends of mind with wives from any other country have had little if any trouble which makes me think that we gueros (white boys) are not treated with an even hand.

Despite the governmental road blocks I continue to love México and the vast majority of it's people less of course the National Bureaucrats.

Tom aka Chema

I never have to get my New Mexico birth certificate translated while in Mexico, because like you say, it is in Spanish. Don't let anyone get you on that one again.

[cisco]

Beware, my friend. I've been married 10 yrs last Sept. and I love my wife dearly, but the family drives me up a wall. (6 brothers, 3 sisters and about 40 kids.) I'm nothing but an ATM machine to them. When my wife says we are invited to a birthday party or something like that it's only because they know i'm a soft touch. Always asking for a "loan" that is forgotten as soon as they get the money. They have more excuses about their poor life than I care to talk about. And thank you is not in their vocabulary.
There's a saying that if you give your girlfriend $100 to buy a dress she will buy one for $70 and give her mother $30. Try it with your girlfriend.
Best thing for you to do if you marry this girl is to stay in the states and stay away from the family.

[OkieinPachuca]

I am American and my husband is Mexican. It took all of 10 days for me to get my FM2 approved with permission to do honest work in Mexico. Luckily, the company I worked for in the States has an office in D.F., so I was able to bring my job with me, but on a Mexican pay scale. My only issue is that I cannot bring my car into Mexican with an FM2 "con familiar".

[Salto_jorge]

Everyone has their own experience.

It is easier for someone to cross into the USA from another country and get a job then for those from the USA. In for one americans seem to stick out due to customs and language issues. Another issues is enforcement of work regulations and unions.

When you marry someone from another culture one culture may not quickly accept the other one can feel deprived or lost. In mexico one does marry the entire family and the family seems to always stick together. Many in the USA do not have the same sense of family as as mexico. Its not religion since mainly woman and children seem to go to church, men in the family wait outside the church as if watching a sporting event hanging around, if you do not you are the outsider.

Loaning each other money and beting the "wallet" is interesting. Anyone that makes more then another is considered that, also anyone with extra cash. What you own does not matter it is what extra you have. Spend everything and save nothing.

Also laws always seem to change. Its easier to stay and live in the USA since everyone is treated the same and payoffs are not what it is all about.

If you have money in mexico and do not own a store or business you thought to be either in the mafia or a drug dealer or worse you work for the government.


It is all based on experience, where you live and those that you associate with.

................... The following is based on small town life .........................

I marrried a Mexican/Indian in 1976. Our children are dual nationals and were born in the USA, right after they were born we obtain Mexican birth certificates at the consulate from D.F. as extranjeros.

I spend most of my time in the USA, we own property in sonora, jalisco and the USA.

Relatives consider us equally a source of cash as other mexicans. If you make a loan you will never get it back. Wife loaned her brother 15K and we will never see it, her sister loaned him 32K and she will never see it also. The important part is that we all live in the USA, it would not make a difference if we lived in Mexico.

I do not have a FM2 or FM3 and I do not pay bribes. I dress to be respected and not like a field hand or farmer or cowboy or american out to raise hell.

I do not act like I am curious nor do I ask anyone questions but I always introduce my self and hang out with the men even if I do not know them, this can be dangerious these days but not in the past.

Many men (macho crap) drink so much and mess around with woman so much and have kids all over the place that the real wife or first one with kids will want to control your money and run the house and you.

I have heard first hand of woman telling their legal husbands to get another woman on the side if they do not like their current situation. Woman may also do it and I do not know if this is the norm.

Couples split up often but never talk about it, some sleep in different parts of the same house. Only when looking around in the house will you notice this situation. A small bed in the corner or the out building, a bed roll on the floor or under the main bed or wire box spring behind the house that gets used.

Many people claim to be married and only have kids with each other.

---------------------------------- in the end !

You will marry the extended family.

Spouse will want to control the finances.

Spouse will want to have her own money different then family money.

Do not be possesive (sp) of anything.

Anyone that comes into a house is treated like family or you are accused of putting them down.

In the USA we live to work and then take time off, in other places others work when needed or borrow from others.

Everyones experience is difference !!!!!!!!!!!!

Its harder to get papers to work in mexico.

many folks in mexico think that americans are rich.

[mtyler]

I find all these comments quite interesting and confusing. There are several which seem to state conflicting points of view, which seems to indicate that either there is no real structure for this kind of thing, or that there might be a number of points at which money needs to lubricate the process.

I am engaged to my fiancee and we live in Australia. However, we are planning on marrying in Oaxaca in a couple of years time and living in Mexico for a while. As a result, I am considering the best way to organise all this, as I will want to work, and need to work out the best way to complete the processes.

A couple of people have mentioned good contacts who can advise on this. We expect to live in either DF or Guadalajara, so if you could recommend me contacts in these cities who may be able to assist with how best to navigate this process I would appreciate it.

Fairly happy with how the family situation works - am not expecting any begging relatives or aggressive mother-in-laws (have already jumped that hurdle!).

Thanks

M

[Salto_jorge]

Laws change over time within a country and between countries.

Regional and local customs are slower to change.

The extended family is very strong.

This week we were asked to help with the bill for our god son who passed away in Mexico City. We had not seen or heard from him in over 25 years, he must have been around 39 years old. I believe that either his daughter or younger sister contacted us besides his mother and gave us a bank account number that we are supposed to wire money to. The family bond is for life. The family believes that we have to money to help, besides the burial has taken place and has alresdy been paid for maybe even on our behalf, I actually do not know. But I am his god father, we are also somehow related to his mothers third cousin.

I would also say that every family is different.

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To sum it all up, have fun, get married and stay together. Have a great life together .

Live in the country that matches your life style and where you can work.

Stress is hard on the body and must be avoided.

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[JimJones]

As far as loans to family members go I don’t see what the problem is. If you have the money and want to loan “gift” it then do it if you don’t want to loan the money just say no and be done with it.

My wife is Mexican and we have loaned money to family members and have also refused money to family members my feelings are if I think I am going to get paid back and it’s a legitimate cause I will loan the money. If I think that somebody is trying to scam me I just flat out tell them no.


A couple of posters have mentioned that they have attorney contacts that can help with the immigration process.
I would be grateful if you could PM me their contact info. I would like to become a dual citizen but it just seems so complicated to do I would rather pay somebody to take care of all the hassle.

[RVGRINGO]

Caution: The immigration processes are easy enough to do by yourself. Even attorneys who claim to have all the answers, seldom do. Even though the immigration laws are well written, they are often interpreted differently by individual agents. The one in front of you is 'the law' and it is unwise to challenge him on the details. You may only encourage a 'push back'.
Things are improving in theis area, but there is still progress to be made. That said, there is a current effort on the part of the government to make the process easier for the expat. More computerization and streamlining will begin on May 1st of this year. As with any change, it may create some confusion for a while. So, for those of you who are marrying and changing immigration status, you may need to smile more and be patient with the INM officials.