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[Longford]

Originally Posted by DHHawkeye

danger, roadblocks, etc. Was actually pleasant.

If the comment was offered as humor, fine. Maybe. If it was meant seriously, then I'll offer the observation that for people involved in the incidents it wasn't so "pleasant." Many were fearful. Here's an online report from one person:
/SNIP/

[conklinwh]

If you at all believe the Zetas "cross" strategy reviewed in Borderland Beat, then things could get much worse in GDL before they get better. Net is that Zacatecas is "hub" of the cross and Zetas being confronted there by consortium of cartels that will probably lose. Next major step is GDL and Sinaloa cartel will be forced into the fray to not be isolated.

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by Longford

If the comment was offered as humor, fine. Maybe. If it was meant seriously, then I'll offer the observation that for people involved in the incidents it wasn't so "pleasant." Many were fearful. Here's an online report from one person:

as per forum rules, could you supply a link to where the report came from, please?

[conorkilleen]

Originally Posted by conklinwh

If you at all believe the Zetas "cross" strategy reviewed in Borderland Beat, then things could get much worse in GDL before they get better. Net is that Zacatecas is "hub" of the cross and Zetas being confronted there by consortium of cartels that will probably lose. Next major step is GDL and Sinaloa cartel will be forced into the fray to not be isolated.

I agree. GDL may heat up quite a bit in the next few months before Pena is fully in office. I have not read much (that I believe anyway) of the new presidents strategy in these issues, but one thing is for sure, GDL is going to see some action.

[Longford]

Originally Posted by xabiachica

as per forum rules, could you supply a link to where the report came from, please?

Sorry, here's the reference link:

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[circle110]

Well, isn't that a catch-22. Forum rules require posting a link to the origin of the quote but yet those same forum rules don't allow the link because it's to a competing forum.

I guess we have to simply take Longford's word as to the veracity of the quote.

[kazslo]

Originally Posted by Longford

If the comment was offered as humor, fine. Maybe. If it was meant seriously, then I'll offer the observation that for people involved in the incidents it wasn't so "pleasant." Many were fearful. Here's an online report from one person:
/SNIP/

I think he meant it as a continuation of his previous post, saying there were no signs of any danger, roadblocks, etc and not saying that those things are pleasant...hence the quoting:

danger, roadblocks, etc. Was actually pleasant.

Has either the US or Mexico tried to explain why their vehicle was attacked? I'm surprised the US isn't publicly demanding more answers from the Mexican gov't.

What is the situation like in GDL right now, as in has anything changed? The consular warnings have a "the boy who cried wolf" effect on me now, after all of the hyped up travel warnings they've put out over the years. But I'm interested to hear from people living there on the current condition - if there are a lot more military, less traffic, more stores closed at night, etc.

[tepetapan]

Originally Posted by kazslo

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Has either the US or Mexico tried to explain why their vehicle was attacked? I'm surprised the US isn't publicly demanding more answers from the Mexican gov't.

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My feelings are that the US can demand anything they want BUT this is Mexico. They are not required to answer those demands.
The investigation is proceeding as Mexico sees fit. Mexico is an Independent country. Two spooks get shot at in the mountains is too bad but still part of the game the DEA, ATF and others have been playing in Mexico.
Somehow, although the US is the world´s largest exporter of arms AND the world´s largest importer of drugs, it is always some other country´s fault / problem. That dog won´t hunt anymore, anywhere.

[kazslo]

Originally Posted by tepetapan

My feelings are that the US can demand anything they want BUT this is Mexico. They are not required to answer those demands.
The investigation is proceeding as Mexico sees fit. Mexico is an Independent country. Two spooks get shot at in the mountains is too bad but still part of the game the DEA, ATF and others have been playing in Mexico.
Somehow, although the US is the world´s largest exporter of arms AND the world´s largest importer of drugs, it is always some other country´s fault / problem. That dog won´t hunt anymore, anywhere.

I wasn't saying that Mexico should answer to any US demands or try to appease them in any way, just that I find it really odd that a gov't member was shot at supposedly by police forces, and everyone is really hush-hush. I mean, neither side has even tried to start to explain the why question. At least humor us and say it was a random attack or that they weren't police but were cartel members. Give me something of a theory of why this occured. The US is yelling "Danger! Danger!", but refuses to give any details on the circumstances that led to the event. We, the citizens of the US who live in Mexico, I think deserve an explanation from our gov't (although I doubt one will be given).

[RVGRINGO]

Some events from 50 years ago are still coming to light and you might be surprised at the cover stories that existed at the time. Now, nobody seems interested in the truth of the matter. You weren't supposed to know then & now it doesn't matter; except to a few historians, etc. Those of us who were involved are soon to die off and history will be rewritten for the convenience of whoever is in charge in the future. That's the way it is, always has been and always will be. Sound familiar?