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I assume it's okay to post this link to an article by Doug Bower, a well-known expat writer about Mexico. Basically, his point is that the number of U.S. gringos moving to Mexico is increasing rapidly, that the vast majority of them refuse to assimilate, and that they are beginning to distort Mexican society and culture in very negative ways.

I think he has a few good points, but many others seem informed by dislike for change and a desire to keep Mexico preserved in the amber he thought he found it in 30 years ago. I was amused by his repeated allusion to Gay Pride parades -- a phenomenon which may have begun in the U.S. but is now worldwide.

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I assume it's okay to post this link to an article by Doug Bower, a well-known expat writer about Mexico. Basically, his point is that the number of U.S. gringos moving to Mexico is increasing rapidly, that the vast majority of them refuse to assimilate, and that they are beginning to distort Mexican society and culture in very negative ways.

I think he has a few good points, but many others seem informed by dislike for change and a desire to keep Mexico preserved in the amber he thought he found it in 30 years ago. I was amused by his repeated allusion to Gay Pride parades -- a phenomenon which may have begun in the U.S. but is now worldwide.

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My reaction: He's misinformed, and as a result ... writes from a position of ignorance. But my strongest reaction was that he writes fiction and that fiction shouldn't be confused with reality. He engages in self promotion, endlessly. Actually, he's a good example of the "Ugly American."
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Thanks for that perspective -- you know more about Mr. Bower than I. I was struck by his easy, implied generalizations, such as the gringos he claims to have seen chasing away a beggar asking for a few pesos, or berating non-English speaking vendors...therefore is typical of gringo behavior? I doubt that very much.
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I do not know about this Mr. Bower but to answer your title I would say yes, if it was not for the gringo
(American and Canadian) thirst for drugs the border states would not be under...

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Doug Bower has a quota to meet with his published words and has written a few other rather negative articles on Mexico .... in the vein of "it's not like it used to be". Doesn't seem like a good way to promote his 2-3 earlier books on Mexico
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I assume it's okay to post this link to an article by Doug Bower, a well-known expat writer about Mexico. Basically, his point is that the number of U.S. gringos moving to Mexico is increasing rapidly, that the vast majority of them refuse to assimilate, and that they are beginning to distort Mexican society and culture in very negative ways.

I think he has a few good points, but many others seem informed by dislike for change and a desire to keep Mexico preserved in the amber he thought he found it in 30 years ago. I was amused by his repeated allusion to Gay Pride parades -- a phenomenon which may have begun in the U.S. but is now worldwide.

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Hi ptrichmondmike;

I'd say for the most part no, they're not having an negative impact on Mexico. But specifically in some parts like Cabo San Lucas - yes! Cabo has become Newport Beach, CA. South. Gringos galore in Blue Century 21 Blazers trying to sell me property I can't own "fee simple". My wife a Mexicana almost threw up, and demanded after a very short visit, that we leave and get the heck out of there. Yes they have some absolutely beautiful hotels and serene ocean views but as far as the culture - it's just too departed from Mexico. I'm sure there are some other places in Mexico as well.

Mexican's are so used to these negative impacts, that they even have some sayings for them. They just let what they see just wash off their backs so to speak. Way more tolerant culture than the USA.

Any young budying Socialogists or Socio-Economists want to start a fasinating Doctoral Thesis on this? I say that as Mexico is about to explode with change being part (and probably the strongest part) of the New North American Union. Canada, USA and Mexico. Globalization at oil around $100.00 / barrel is out. Too expensive to ship raw materials from Australia, South America, South Africa to China, India to make goods in factories using more expensive power and then ship to Europe and USA. They know that, as there's over 220 Chinese Mfgs. knocking down Mexico's doors right now to build factories. That and the fact if they make separate subsidieries in Mexico, they can bypass Import Customs Duties, and get all the benefits from NAFTA and all the bilateral free trade agreements made by Pres. Bush (over 80) and Pres. Fox (over 40), and ship mostly duty free. This loop hole is even if they weren't part of the original NAFTA agreement!

Already in Queretaro Boeing, Bell Helicopter and a Canadian Aircraft Co. are building huge plants. Having worked in Aerospace, I'd assume a minimum of 10,000 new jobs. Think what impact that is going to have on Queretaro State? It's going to be a huge hub for Aircraft Manufacturing in North America.

Leveno is building a $40+ Million USD plant some where in Mexico too. That's the Chinese computer manufacturer.

All these companies are jumping the gun, not even waiting until the Drug Cartel Wars are over.

My bottom line read on the whole thing. Mexico will have some influences of the 22nd Century thrust upon parts of it, while much of Mexico still lives in the 19th-20th Century.

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If one googles his name interesting threads come up. Here is an interesting one.
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And he's getting attention on Guanajuato-The New San Miguel? - page 2 - Lonely Planet travel forum Lonely Planet.

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I posted my thoughts on Mr. Bower's article on the Lonely Planet Thorn Tree, Mexico Branch.


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Are gringos destroying Mexico?
Heck yes, little by little, thank the Lord and forward thinking Mexicans. Meanwhile Doug Bowers should suck lemons!

Does anyone want to retain Mexico as a theme park for US visitors and retirees?

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