Mexico Security Update

[polynomial]

The point of this thread was never to talk about the positive things in Mexico. If you want to talk about those things, you can always create a new thread.

If you want to talk about violence, and you want to disagree with the information presented, then that's also fine, you can show why you disagree, and say that crime is not as bad or whatever. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. Which means that, if you see information that you think it's wrong, then you can point out why it's wrong.

What is not OK though, is to tell people not to discuss violence just because it's been done too much. Within the rules, the OP can post whatever information he wants, and if you don't want to read it then don't click on the thread, problem solved.

I agree with those who say that a lot of big cities in the US are far more dangerous than most places in Mexico, because it's true when you compare crime rates. I agree that the media blows it out of proportion, that is all true.

The thing is, just because it's lower than the crime in the USA doesn't mean that it's not a legitimate concern, after all, the title of this thread was not "Mexico's Crime Rate compared to United States' rate" or "Mexico's security vs USA security." It was simply Mexico Security Update.

[ptrichmondmike]

My question is, "Is that ALL the violent crime that happened in Mexico last week?" I'm sure it's not, in a country of more than 100 million people. Otherwise, Mexico is probably a lot safer than California. In any event, nearly all of these cases appear to be related to the drug war. Yes, the gross brutality is chilling...but expats don't ever seem to be targets.

Am I right?

[FHBOY]

Originally Posted by pappabee

It is a Trash 80 but with a b/w screen not the original green one. I thought I was great stuff when I longed into a site with my 800 baud modem and got a green blog. And then it wanted me to do everything in DOS. I still know most of the commands.

I loved DOS, it was so simple, but then again the first computer language I learned in high school in 1965 was Machine Language (yes, eight "1"s and "0"s to type out a letter) and then I "graduated" to Fortran. Oh, my first home computer was a TRS, that hooked to a portable TV and had an external cassette drive that ran in BASIC. Just a keyboard and a drive. Taught my kids computers on it, then borrowed a friends Osborne, the size of a portable sewing machine, with a 5" "screen", my first real DOS computer - first program: Sign Shop, I think it was called.

See, young 'uns, we old farts remember when 16K was a big whoop!

[RPBHaas]

Originally Posted by ptrichmondmike

My question is, "Is that ALL the violent crime that happened in Mexico last week?" I'm sure it's not, in a country of more than 100 million people. Otherwise, Mexico is probably a lot safer than California. In any event, nearly all of these cases appear to be related to the drug war. Yes, the gross brutality is chilling...but expats don't ever seem to be targets.

Am I right?

Victims? Rarely. Targets? Not if they are not involved. (double negative, just like in Spanglish)

[conklinwh]

Not sure whether this old computer link or crime & violence.
As to latter, was just reading how violent crime has exploded in Chicago. Reports on last three weekends were 29, 46 & 20 shootings in Chicago including a 16 year old girl. Crime is getting bad everywhere and will probably get worse before it gets better.
[Comment moved to Computer Thread]

[conklinwh]

Maybe should have a new thread but I found the referenced NY Times article on Guzman & the drug trade to be very interesting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/ma...er=rss&emc=rss

[edgeee]

an OP usually doesn't consider that the name given to any thread is the headline for a story s/he and others will write until it dies on it's own. it can be misleading, but not this time.
(face it folks, a forum is a place you go to read - and maybe write - stories individually chosen by the reader. but what you may write is not TV Guide. if "you have chosen poorly", just change the channel.)
in that regard, at least half of what i read here is superfluous at best.
it's just a report folks!
the OP just put it out there. if you like it good. if you don't, so what?

[FHBOY]

Originally Posted by conklinwh

Maybe should have a new thread but I found the referenced NY Times article on Guzman & the drug trade to be very interesting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/ma...er=rss&emc=rss

Good post, will finish reading it later.

BTW, did you see the news that La Chapo Guzman's son was arrested on Thursday in Zappopan [sic].

Question: What does that arrest mean? Why do I feel it is more symbolic than anything? Will his arrest do anything to change the landscape of drugs/drug cartels/drug violence in Mexico?

[maesonna]

Update, it turns out that it likely wasn’t El Chapo’s son after all. His wife (Guzman Jr.’s wife) is claiming the guy doesn’t even look like him. Story here and in many other newspapers. If the authorities made a mistake, it won’t be the first time. I recall another high-profile case of this type from a few years ago, but can’t find links right now.

[conklinwh]

Authorities have now confirmed that not his son but a car dealer. They have not explained why he had all the cash along with a large weapons stash.