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What with the presidential election just a month away, I realize that I know almost nothing about Mexican politics. I'm vaguely aware that historical opposition to the revolution and its anti-clerical aftermath led to the Cristero rebellion in the west-central regions...a long time ago. Which leads me to speculate on how different areas of Mexico tend to line up politically today.

Any insights into places/states that tend to be conservative or liberal? And how important a factor does religion continue to be?


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The revolutionary party(PRI) took over with the new constitution and ran the country for 71 years. With any long term governance it became both beaurocratic and very corrupt. 12 years ago the PAN took over with Fox. Pan has lost a lot of it's basic support at the municipal level even in it'd heartland of Guanajuato although will probably hold the governor. After 12 years, it looks like the "new" PRI will win nationally.
PRD with Obregon, the very socialist mayor of Mexico, almost, in fact he claims he did, beat Calderon 6 years ago. Since then there has been a schism within the PRD with Obregon basically leading one half. If polls are to be believed, PRI will win by some 15 points. Other than Obregon, not sure how liberal/conservative fits as seems as if both PRI & PAN very similar.

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The revolutionary party(PRI) took over with the new constitution and ran the country for 71 years. With any long term governance it became both beaurocratic and very corrupt. 12 years ago the PAN took over with Fox. Pan has lost a lot of it's basic support at the municipal level even in it'd heartland of Guanajuato although will probably hold the governor. After 12 years, it looks like the "new" PRI will win nationally.
PRD with Obregon, the very socialist mayor of Mexico, almost, in fact he claims he did, beat Calderon 6 years ago. Since then there has been a schism within the PRD with Obregon basically leading one half. If polls are to be believed, PRI will win by some 15 points. Other than Obregon, not sure how liberal/conservative fits as seems as if both PRI & PAN very similar.
Obregón? Do you mean AMLO? He isn't the mayor of Mexico City any more though he was when he ran for president the first time. The current mayor is Marcelo Ebrard, also of the PRD.

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Sorry, meant to say the then mayor of Mexico.

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Sorry, meant to say the then mayor of Mexico.
AMLO has been retuning his guitar and is embracing a more centrist view. Although still leaning to the left, this widening of view has put him 4 point below Peńa and, apparently, closing. There is under 30 days to the election and now we have a horse race with the two leaders running neck and neck.

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If anybody believes that AMLO anything but left of left then I've got a bridge in NYC to sell them.

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Everyone knows that you don't have a bridge to sell. I, personally, feel that AMLO is a bit on the right.

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Everyone knows that you don't have a bridge to sell. I, personally, feel that AMLO is a bit on the right.
To the right of whom or what?

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Everyone knows that you don't have a bridge to sell. I, personally, feel that AMLO is a bit on the right.
We all have a tendency to view things through our own eyes. Im not sure left and right, or liberal and conservative is the way most Mexicans view their electoral choices, or the extent that, for most Mexicans, that carries much importance.

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Whatever conklinwh thinks is left.

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