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Old 27th June 2012, 06:22 AM
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Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in mexico.
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disclaimer: This is all only my opinions and i own no property, so sue me at your own risk.
(this should make repeating "i think" unnecessary, but it doesn't seem to work.)

Thomas Wolfe wrote You Can't Go Home Again. usually i would agree. (a highly relevant work, btw.)

as prviously stated, i think this: as for violence, there is no place it aint.

from where i sit, far removed, it would make no sense to judge anything, so i won't.
but i will gladly vent some visceral violence of a verbal nature.
(not really, but i adore alliteration, and the word visceral is accurate,even if verbal isn't, and i seldom get to use it.)

as C&P from the big wiki,

visceral (anatomy) Of or relating to the viscera—internal organs of the body; splanchnic.

Having to do with the response of the body as opposed to the intellect, as in the distinction between feeling and thinking.
(emphasis added.)
violence is in all of us, but it varies a great deal.
a mother bear with with cubs is a different animal.

i have a love/hate relationship with labels. we must have them, to discuss anything, but we use them so poorly.
'random violence' means different things to different people. not really their fault, it just is, due to the variety of perspectives.
so the poorly part means we attach our own meaning to another's usage. this is a form of shortend communication, troublesome, but common.
to elaborate more just makes it worse, so we live with it. (i cringe at all the intentional mis-spelling. i tried that when i was 6.)

we might make more sense if we started hanging a geo prefix, i.e, mex-violence, us-violence, NC-violence, but i doubt it.
but i believe in it. our environment is a major factor in many ways.
i had an uncle who cut a guy open in the parking lot of the VFW when i was about twelve; drunken violence, but was it random?
the saturday night dance at the VFW was THE social event of any week. it was also crime central, since we had none elsewhere.

so to me - and i am the exception - 'random violence' is truly only the visceral, heat-of-the-moment kind.
pretty much everything else involves thinking about it for a while first.
but there is that gray area - there always is - where labels overlap.
when a drive-by in detroit caps a baby in it's crib, it's a random death, but the crime is not random, tho it is all too common.

IMO the US violence is such a huge issue because the safety zones have all eroded with time, thus the presumed need for gated communities.
(i learned in vegas that gates also keep violence in, not just out, and they don't do that either.)

there used to be places in the USA where the local society looked much like modern-day small-town Mexico.
not the same, of course, but similar.

everyone knew everyone. people helped each other out of neccessity.
kids my age made their first real spending money when it was time to bale hay. (and yes, only when the sun shines, for at least 3 days.)
oddly enough, at that time it was $1/hr US. but one neighbor thought that was crap, since it was a new development.
he pitched in when we needed him, so why should he have to pay for the same. dad paid me on the sly when we helped him.
but i tangress.

'progress' has a way of being many things, the law of unintended consequences applies.
Americans have been isolating in general for decades.
if you do anything the same way long enough you will start to notice parts you don't like.
now the pedulum is swinging back a little.

i will go home again. my dad is 81 and i will go back to be with him a while.
and then i will look for a 'new' 'hometown' somewhere in Mexico.
while i have been wandering through life, my original home has been moving south. time to meet up.

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