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Old 23rd May 2012, 07:49 AM
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Yes, I suppose I was overreacting some. I am a diehard pessimist.

I realize that in the end the place I will have to go to get my "gaikokujin torooku shomeisho" which is now a "zairyu card" is the big scary immigration burea instead of the nice people at my local office. I just have bad images of being asked for more than just my passport and a photo to get my card renewed.

I only replied to the re-entry permit post because it said this was something for permanent residents when it was now clear it applied to all longer term residents of Japan - this had not yet been clarified here.

And somewhere the paperwork I read said that "in practice" the visa renewal period had been extended to five years. That is what the large majority of people will get.

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... is the big scary immigration burea instead of the nice people at my local office.
Yeah... and some people who live out in the boonies will have to travel to the big city once in a while but at least it's only once in seven years. I've never had any trouble with Immigration that wasn't of my own doing. I even forgot to bring my kids' alien registrations once when picking up their visa stamps and the lady behind the counter said: "just a second" and went in the back and looked it up online (and gave me a bit of a stern warning about 'next time' ).

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And somewhere the paperwork I read said that "in practice" the visa renewal period had been extended to five years. That is what the large majority of people will get.
Actually, I hadn't even seen that until I was looking over the PDF you recommended. That's good news for me because it means my two kids should get 5 years next time and I won't have to visit on their behalf so many times. But... since US passports for children are only good for 5 years (and, because of the multiple 3-year visas, the expiration dates are not in sync), I doubt I'll soon forget my way around the Shinagawa Immigration office. Before I got my PR, I was down there at least once a year for some reason or another.

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My first trip to Shinagawa, I dealt with a few very "officious" even snobbish people, and it has colored my feelings about the place ever since. When I lived in the countryside, I had to travel pretty far to get the visa renewal (and that was once every year) but they were very nice.

Anyway, I understand the good reasons behind the changes. It will certainly help to keep better track of people, and I can finally be listed as "head of household" if I wanted to.

I guess I had thought I had escaped ever having to see the inside of that massive Shinagawa building when I heard they were effectively getting rid of re-entry permits.

It sounds like the changes will suit your needs well with your kids visas to arrange. I only have one child, and he has dual citizenship.

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I think I had to go there once. If it's the same place it had some of the nastiest people working there. I was on a flight that day and I forgot my re-entry which was silly of course but the lady tried to close for lunch on me even after I told her it would be too late and she didn't care. So I let into her and told what a nasty person I thought she was. The mannager came over and took the 2 seconds to stamp my visa.

Some people just like to be nasty to gaijins when they are put in a position of power over us, be it for driving licenses or visas or what not. Same kind of people who become cops to screw with kids. Total power trip.

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On the earlier topic, there is a longer brochure on soumu.go.jp that says "When moving overseas, even if you have a Re-Entry Permit, you will need to submit a 'notification of moving out' but, as far as I can tell, that's something you submit to the local municipality when you move elsewhere (and something the Japanese apparently have to file as well) so that probably has more to do with the Juki system than visas.
Sorry, maybe I missed it, but what is the link for this brochure?

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not sure why you waited but for sure you can secure PR after 5 consecutive years, anyhow congrats.

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not sure why you waited but for sure you can secure PR after 5 consecutive years, anyhow congrats.
It's not "for sure" unless you happen to be married to a Japanese national (even then it's not "for sure" but I've never heard of a spouse being turned down for PR). The rule-of-thumb, according to what little information you can get from Immigration, is 10 years. One visa agent that my company hired when I first got here said that their rule was to file sometime after having received one's third 3-year visa (that is, the second 3-year extension after the initial visa). But PR is not based on how long you've been here but on whether it's likely you're actually planning to live in Japan permanently and whether Japan is likely to benefit from your long-term presence. In general, there's no way for them to know that if you've only been here a few years.
If you marry a Japanese the criteria is different because, presumably, you have a very good reason to live here permanently.

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Thanks for this info , especially for clearing my doubts regarding the marriage part . I always thought that it was a necessity to settle there . I always wanted to settle here for the anime , games , cosplayers and especially to meet ulzzangs and cute japanese girls .


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May I know what is the difference between a PR and a Citizenship in Japan? What are the extra privileges of being a citizen compared to PR?

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What are the extra privileges of being a citizen compared to PR?
Well... for one thing a citizen can vote in elections but a non-citizen cannot (I'd be willing to bet a non-citizen can't run for public office, either... but I've never tried so I don't know). A citizen can leave the country for as long as he wants without having to ask permission to come back. On the downside, a non-citizen probably can't be conscripted into the military -- but in the case of Japan that's not an issue because Japan isn't (and doesn't seem likely to start) conscripting its citizens into military service.

As a citizen, you also can't be deported... no matter what you do. Of course, for some things deportation is probably preferable to spending the rest of your life in a Japanese prison.

Permanent residency is simply a status -- it doesn't make you Japanese. Citizenship does.

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