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that's why the net sucks, because in real life a stupid **** like that would have a very quick reality check if she said something that racist in public, "Oh we want a japanese baby from Japan, not korea." but on the net people shelter the stupid from reality. Thanks guys, keeping the world safe on delete at a time.
Clearly you haven't read what I wrote... Laurabell asked a question and I gave an honest answer.

I simply said that "I would prefer that the child be from Japan." That does not mean that I wouldn't not consider a child from Korea.... you all gave me options and suggestions and I am just stating a preference, based on those options and suggestion and I have also prefaced the preference with the reason why I would prefer it that way.... regardless of which way I might seek an adoption (either in Japan or South Korea), I'm going to be seen as the bad guy... the Japanese community will frown upon the fact that the child is from Korea and the Koreans will frown upon the fact that I'm removing a Korean child from the country.

Oh, and in regards to your PM... you words are so very classy. I hope that your loved ones never have to go through the pain of knowing that they might not be able to have a family on their own.


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Wasn't trying to be classy. I do hope you never have kids because obviously you don't deserve them. And many members of my extended family can't have kids, that's why I have siblings from India, cousins from Thailand and Africa. They wanted children they could love and give a good home to. They didn't have any "preferences" what country or color the child was from, just wanted a child to love. Go buy yourself a goldfish and call it a day. lol, classy.


End just to make sure you understand your situation, the answer is no, noway you'll be able to adopt from Japan.

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Clearly, you have missed the point of my post... from the beginning, I've said that I was just considering my options. My first choice would be Japanese, as I am Japanese and would have that in common with the child, as the child would be raised in Europe and would have very little in common with the people in the community around us.

From what others have said, adoption from Japan would be next to impossible for a couple from outside of Japan. I acknowleged this fact and continued on to state that this whole thread was my thinking aloud.

My husband and I have not come to the decision to adopt, as there are so many unknowns at this time. Adopting a Japanese child was just one of many options available for us to consider. NEVER in this thread have I ever said that we wouldn't consider adopting a non-Japanese child. Japan was first on my mind, as that is where my ethinc origins are based. I hardly see how this makes me a "racist ****" (your words). If I had stated "No, I hate Koreans and I would NEVER consider adopting from Korea," then you'd have a valid point. As stated before, I am just stating a preference based on options and suggestions given to me.

My Husband and I want the same things that your familiy wants... a child (or children) to love... as I've stated throughout this thread, I was just wanting to get an idea as to what our chances would be if we decided to look to Japan to adopt.

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The racism comes from you saying that you would prefer a Japanese child from Japan over a Japanese child from Korea. And you did clearly give as your defense the history of the countries.

You come off more like your shopping for a dog than thinking about adopting a child.

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racism, racial discrimination and racial awareness are all different things and adopting a child is a personal choice. Someone wanting to adopt a child may have many reasons for their choices - certainly when making tentative questions, would they be accused of being sexist if they preferred to adopt a boy??? Whatever your views, other posters dont expect to be answered rudely or offensively. You need to make your views politely and pleasantly, it actually sounds nicer, less likely to get deleted and is more likely to be listened to seriously

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racism, racial discrimination and racial awareness are all different things and adopting a child is a personal choice. Someone wanting to adopt a child may have many reasons for their choices - certainly when making tentative questions, would they be accused of being sexist if they preferred to adopt a boy??? Whatever your views, other posters dont expect to be answered rudely or offensively. You need to make your views politely and pleasantly, it actually sounds nicer, less likely to get deleted and is more likely to be listened to seriously

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If somebody said they wanted a boy we wouldn't consider them sexist, but if they said, we want a boy because girls are stupid.....well you get my point.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were Japanese babies up for adoption in Canada but maybe they wouldn't be pure enough for her.

And here is a shock to people who bring up concepts like "society" on forums. Yes a person should expect to be treated rudely and belittled when their views are ignorant and racist.

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If somebody said they wanted a boy we wouldn't consider them sexist, but if they said, we want a boy because girls are stupid.....well you get my point.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were Japanese babies up for adoption in Canada but maybe they wouldn't be pure enough for her.

And here is a shock to people who bring up concepts like "society" on forums. Yes a person should expect to be treated rudely and belittled when their views are ignorant and racist.
If I wrong forgive me, but I cant see anywhere that the poster has said she didnt want an "unpure" Japanese child" because unpure are stupid.

As for people expecting to be treated rudely and belittled on a forum??? WRONG! No one would bother posting if we allowed everyone with an opinion to behave in such a way, we'd have no one here. Everyone has different opinions, if people wish to post them, then they have the right. Others have the right to disagree with them - but to get offensive and personal isnt going to change their mind or more importantly IMO makes the offensive persons views invalid!

So just state your views nicely, then people may have respect for them

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Complete nonsense. Only if the site of a cuss word makes your brain stop working, you go into somekind of shock and you can't understand the message. I'm not looking for respect from strangers who are only at this site to ask their question and move on. I got my point across to her.

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Have you considered adopting a Japanese child from South Korea?
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(I consider myself to be 100% ethnically pure Japanese)..........I had never considered adopting a Japanese child from South Korea because of the historic mutual dislike that exists between the two countries. I also admit that I am a little biased towards Japan in this regard and if I was going to adopt a Japanese child, I would prefer that he/she be from Japan.
But hold on folks.....she didn't say she wouldn't adopt a Japanese baby that wasn't from Japan, only that she would prefer ones from Japan. They just must make them better there. I stand by my original statement.

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Complete nonsense. Only if the site of a cuss word makes your brain stop working, you go into somekind of shock and you can't understand the message. I'm not looking for respect from strangers who are only at this site to ask their question and move on. I got my point across to her.
The only point you got across was that you dont understand what she was talking about and showed her that your only argument against her was to call her names! I still dont understand your issues at all?? But hey, its simply a matter of having a rational discussion on a discussion forum. If you want to simply use rude words and insult then its not a discussion is it. Alot of your posts are helpful and make sense, including your first few on this thread, but when you suddenly just start name calling someone who has been a good contributor on all of our forums, its pointless really. So is you and me talking about it. You know the forum doesnt allow name calling or offensive comments. Rules are rules and I'm here to make sure that they're adhered to!!

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