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Old 27th July 2010, 07:14 AM
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Zabestof - it sounds to me like you are annoyed with ATHENS, not Greece!! None of those things on your list happen in the smaller communities away from the large cities. None of them exist on our island, for example. Maybe you need a change of scene ;-)

Well we found out yesterday that we will be living in the Cyclades prefecture again for another year. So that is a little bit of information and at least it is narrowed down to that. We will not find out which island until probably a day or two before classes start.

I have to say, though, after b***ing about the bureaucracy, that the PEOPLE who work in the government offices are always really nice and try to be helpful, so far at least. I got my AFM a few weeks ago and the people at the tax office were very friendly and helpful (of course you could say "Of course they are - a new taxpayer!! Why wouldn't they be??") and you'd be right. But I also picked up my residence permit a few weeks ago and the Ministry of the Interior was very nice to me and even apologized for the delay and acknowledged that it was their fault. Overall I think the problem is systemic but not the personnel. Low-level Greek state employees are the scapegoat for larger, institutional problems. The ones I know personally work very hard, one I know on our island stays at work until 11pm every night (unpaid overtime) just to keep up with all the paperwork.

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Old 27th July 2010, 10:28 AM
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Zabestof - it sounds to me like you are annoyed with ATHENS, not Greece!! None of those things on your list happen in the smaller communities away from the large cities. None of them exist on our island, for example. Maybe you need a change of scene ;-)
I guess you're right. Anyway I don't think everyone is the same, but the most people that I`ve met they were .

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Some of Zabestof's remarks do pertain to places other than Athens. We live on a relatively large, but lowly populated island - yes, you do go into some Government offices where 2 people are doing nothing, while 1 is working: car tax was a good example, a queue of 16 people last December, 1 man doing the work and 2 just sitting!!! And yes, rubbish, far too much of it left around, so many just slow down, wind down the car window and it lands where it lands. And there it is left.

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Zabestof-- I totally understand!!!!!

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I work at a cheese store, have been working there since nearly the day I arrived here. And the first thing to struck me as a wee bit extra-ordinarily odd was the way all and sundry champ their mouths while eating. Sometimes when a costumer inquires about a certain type of cheese and if a long protracted rabbit and pork don't pander to inquisitiveness of a given punter I simply slice a little chunk of the prospective cheese for their degustation, but every time I do so I have to put up with these loud chompings. What kind of code of ethics is this? How can this be so widespread? Obviously, I thought that this particular type of foible is considered as unsavoury, something that's not pleasant to regard or hearken no matter which country you reside in
But there you go, go into any café (you should consider yourself lucky if you have an iPod with you in that case you can simply plug your ears and get along with your nosh)

I went through 7 rings of hell when I applied for a food hygiene certificate. No one at the hospital was able to pinpoint with the slightest precision where I could make an appointment or lodge a request. The thing I got was a series of referring me to a doctor which ,respectively, referred me to another and another and so on until I gave in and left the hospital vanquished and in high dudgeon. It's not only me as an expat that whinges about this, Greeks themselves are appalled. Civil Services in this country are in execrable condition.

And there's this moment of their being overly impolitic towards time. They don't care in the least if someone they are holding up are short of time or simply want to get along with their businesses. I think I'll move to Sweden, the country that's obverse when it comes to contrasting these two.


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I think I'll move to Sweden, the country that's obverse when it comes to contrasting these two.
Oh, man! What are you waiting for? I lived for a little time in Sweden and all I can say is that it does not compare to any of the places I`ve been.

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100% with you on that one........the sooner the government sort out the unions the better!

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One of my friends on facebook wrote:

"the meeting with the government has ended in a deadlock. This is ridiculous. This is catastrophic for the Islands. Hopefully someone will have the balls to get the Army to step in, talk about bite the hands that feed them. And to the garage owner in Rhodes town (the only 1 with fuel left) shame on you charging 5euros a litre...I hope you go Bankrupt!"

I believe the army has stepped in now, but OMG, a country with so many island dependant on tourism, in the middle of the season that is only 6 months long and when the country is in economic crisis, that requires for everybody to work together to enable Greece to recover from its financial circumstances.

To people that have written earlier on this thread about how they do not like the Greek selfish attitude when it comes to money etc. Havent they just proven you soo right, I wish I could finish with a humourous line but there isnt one here.....

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You are 100% correct - as I think I have stated, tourists can go almost anywhere in the World now - it is only the Grecophiles that can be depended upon to come back to Greece. Anyone who wants a rest, sun, sand and sea could well avoid Greece like the plague if their holidays have been spoilt in any way (e.g. flights, no petrol, banks on strike doctors on strike and so on). I think most Greeks (certainly not all of them, some are very astute) have tunnel vision and are incapable of working out "well if I do this it will affect that" etc

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