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Old 1st October 2011, 07:38 AM
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I am so glad to hear someone who loves living in Greece, there is always a good side and a bad side - in every country, I am trying to get in touch with ex pats who have made a life for themselves in Greece, who live in a nice quiet place and enjoy a decent if simple lifestyle. If the couple who live in Chiang Mai, Thailand see this PLEASE could they get in touch. I also am living in Chiang Mai for the time being.
If any expats can give me good advice, where to live, where there is a fairly large ex pat community - please let me know.
Hi, I have lived here in Greece for over ten years now, on Crete. I don't understand why people complain zoo much, if you don't like it here leave!
I love my life here, the people are so warm and welcoming, have great patients with me whilst try to learn Greek.
Of course there are things that are not the same as where you originally come from, so of course you would find them strange, new and different, like riding scooters at 2 in the morning, this is because here you do not go out until after 12 and no one who is from Greece or lived here a while knows this and it does not bother us! Greece is in a bad state now, and I hate it when people say that they - expats are paying for everything whilst the Greeks aren't paying for anything, they pay for a he'll lot more than you know and realize, it is not there fault the government is corrupt, I have a lot of friends who are close to living on the streets, can't buy food etc etc because of the government taking all there money, lowering wages and raising prices of everything, we are trying to survive, of course the young Greeks are trying to change it, why do you think there was all the protests all over Greece a while ago - which were peaceful, this was them showing that things have to change.
My advice for anyone who is thinking of living here, go for it, if you are willing to fit it then you will not regret it, if you are someone who thinks they will have the same life they had 'back home' - where ever that is! Then you are not for here, as you are never going to be happy, go back home to where everything is perfect!
Sorry but it really pi##es me off that people come here and expect it to be the same as America or england but sunnier!
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I totally agree... I've got a few friends from Greece my self and as Arouskava says Greeks are the victims of a way too much corrupted government. Greeks pay way too much and that brought them to the point of survival. It just makes me wonder what is going to happen back home in the UK if the government was to ask people that they have to pay 500GBP on the top of council tax in one month and the same month another 500GBP emergency tax and a further 20% reduction to your salary. I strongly believe that Greece needs to change and from the greeks i've met in my life (believe you me are quite a few) they will do it. The young people had enough and they want change. Greece is a very beautiful place and the people so warm and their hospitality unique. I had the best experience this summer in greece and as Arouskava says if you don't like it live there just go back home.it is simple as that... It is the easiest thing to point the finger just point it to the right direction and not to the people... i do hope i didn'r cause any offence to anyone it is just my humble opinion.

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Hi, I have lived here in Greece for over ten years now, on Crete. I don't understand why people complain zoo much, if you don't like it here leave!
I love my life here, the people are so warm and welcoming, have great patients with me whilst try to learn Greek.
Of course there are things that are not the same as where you originally come from, so of course you would find them strange, new and different, like riding scooters at 2 in the morning, this is because here you do not go out until after 12 and no one who is from Greece or lived here a while knows this and it does not bother us! Greece is in a bad state now, and I hate it when people say that they - expats are paying for everything whilst the Greeks aren't paying for anything, they pay for a he'll lot more than you know and realize, it is not there fault the government is corrupt, I have a lot of friends who are close to living on the streets, can't buy food etc etc because of the government taking all there money, lowering wages and raising prices of everything, we are trying to survive, of course the young Greeks are trying to change it, why do you think there was all the protests all over Greece a while ago - which were peaceful, this was them showing that things have to change.
My advice for anyone who is thinking of living here, go for it, if you are willing to fit it then you will not regret it, if you are someone who thinks they will have the same life they had 'back home' - where ever that is! Then you are not for here, as you are never going to be happy, go back home to where everything is perfect!
Sorry but it really pi##es me off that people come here and expect it to be the same as America or england but sunnier!
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firstly let me say that i am sorry for your husband and do hope that was nothing serious and that he is going to be ok.

on the other hand i'll tell you one thing that you got wrong. UK never contributed to any of the bailouts we just said no from the beginning. The second thing is that i do live in the UAE and if you thing that greeks should not allowed to keep animals then you should learn for all the british in Dubai with the economic downturn left their animals which they "loved" so much just wondering in the desert or locked in their abandoned cars or apartments.the temperature over here can go up to 50 in the summer. As for their health service i have only one thing to say. when i was back home in the UK I was suffering from sever headaches. (later in Greece was diagnosed with a rear tumor) After waiting 3 months for a referral from my GP the hospital called me to tell me that I have to wait another 2 months as there were no appointments. ( i was referred as an urgent case...) One of my friends which was greek told me to have a chat with one of the specialist in a city called thessaloniki in northern Greece. to cut the story short I had 2 operations the Dr was performing a technic that wasn't used in the UK which saved me at least an other 8 facial reconstruction operations and my experience with their hospital was excellent, and above all very cheap. I don't know if things changed now but this was 6 years ago... Before i speak with the surgeon in Greece I was admitted to hospital in London for a week and for 5 days none of the drs bothered to come and see me or have a look at the CT scan. Only after 7 days of me being staffed with painkillers a student dr came and gave me the all clear with a diagnosis "stress". They did miss the massive tumor !!! that's our NHS... as i said, sometimes i don't like it being down here myself. The people and culture are so different from back home and i hate it. but at the end of the day we have a choice stay or go back home. greeks don't

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It stinks. They are rude, ignorant, LAZY, they should never be allowed to keep animals ... I can't wait to get out of this God-forsaken country ..... because God must surely have foresaken it ...... if he hasn't already, then he should!!!!!!! THIS COUNTRY IS THE PITS. Why the hell the UK is bailling them out is beyond me. David Cameron needs a rocket up his ass.

Anybody ever tried the hospitals here? They really f****d up my husband's brain big time.

I HATE THIS PLACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


And please, don't anybody bother replying because I'm not interested .... I'm done with this crap.
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well, let me start off by saying that EVERY country has its bad as well as its good points... but maybe the things that annoy me most are not things about the culture but dumb things that local people have got into the habit of doing or accepting.

Personal space - while I do know that Greeks dont always understand the concept of 'personal space' I really dont like when some people crush into me on the bus or metro. In the wintertime when the bus gets really crowded, I now use my umbrella as a 'prod' to keep the men from leaning into me

The only other thing that bothers me is the way the authorities do not stop the people who beg with children - in other countries the kids would be taken away by authorities and put into care - protected, then when the parents Know this, is usually enough of a deterrent to keep the kids at home.
Ive seem some of the camps where the beggars will often party well into the wee hours, kids as well, so that they will sleep on laps during the day bc of exhaustion.
One lady I passed this week had a newborn on her lap - tight little red face, asleep, and totally exposed to all the car fumes etc as 'mum' begged.
I gave out leaflets once outside a supermarket, and the lady there with toddler on her lap, kept him amused by flicking her lighter on and off for him. after a few hours, she went and got cigs with her pocket money, and then got into a truck with a bunch of others.

It's abuse -physical, mental and emotional - plain and simple, and I really dislike it!

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As an expats I am sure if you are the same as me, once the exitment of moving to Greece has passed and you try and intrigate yourself into the local Greek community, some things just start to anoy you, I laugh at them now but at the time, I just could not get my head round the Greek way of thinking.
I really would like to share these moment with you, and now be able to laugh together.

Just for for example: my first experience of aquiring a greek tradesman to do some work on the apartment, great phone call, the work not a problem will be there the next morning, well three bloody mornings later he showed up as if this is when he said he would arrive, I can laugh at it now
Couldnt agree more. Im learning this now, been here 2 years and my pet hate is some of the Greek drivers. My wife who is Greek agrees and warned me when we moved here that "Greece is wonderful if only there were no Greeks in it". Several other Greek friends have said similar. One thing drivers seem to be lacking here is fear.
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Hi, I have lived here in Greece for over ten years now, on Crete. I don't understand why people complain zoo much, if you don't like it here leave!
I love my life here, the people are so warm and welcoming, have great patients with me whilst try to learn Greek.
Of course there are things that are not the same as where you originally come from, so of course you would find them strange, new and different, like riding scooters at 2 in the morning, this is because here you do not go out until after 12 and no one who is from Greece or lived here a while knows this and it does not bother us! Greece is in a bad state now, and I hate it when people say that they - expats are paying for everything whilst the Greeks aren't paying for anything, they pay for a he'll lot more than you know and realize, it is not there fault the government is corrupt, I have a lot of friends who are close to living on the streets, can't buy food etc etc because of the government taking all there money, lowering wages and raising prices of everything, we are trying to survive, of course the young Greeks are trying to change it, why do you think there was all the protests all over Greece a while ago - which were peaceful, this was them showing that things have to change.
My advice for anyone who is thinking of living here, go for it, if you are willing to fit it then you will not regret it, if you are someone who thinks they will have the same life they had 'back home' - where ever that is! Then you are not for here, as you are never going to be happy, go back home to where everything is perfect!
Sorry but it really pi##es me off that people come here and expect it to be the same as America or england but sunnier!
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Do you think life on Crete or the islands is different than the mainland? It sounds to me like quite a few people live on the mainland and their problems seem like big city problems buses, bureaucracy, etc.

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How about a list of reasons that people left their Mother Countries for?

Seems to me that some folk perhaps expect to much from the move they made.
Political corruption, a Health service that leaves stroke vicitims laying in their own
body waste for hours, massivley hiked Energy Bills, communities that couldn't give
a damn for the elderly or Mentally infirm.
Steets and whole parts of some Towns, where even men would'nt want to be in
daylight, let alone at night. This is England.
While we are at it, ask yourselves what are you actually contributing to the Greek way of life.
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robg, welcome to the forum! why don't you start a new thread in the Greece forum asking why people moved here?

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Living in Greece for over 10 years.
#1 thing that irritates me has to be the way people just throw or leave trash anywhere. I can't understand this way of thinking. My first few months twice, I picked up a crumpled piece of paper and gave it back to the person that "dropped" it. Yes, I thought they "dropped" it because I couldn't imagine just walking in a mall someone would just "throw" piece of paper down! My husband later explained what happened-took bit convincing. Thinking back, I'm so glad I gave it back to them! Though they probably thought I was a nut!

#2-ugh red tape, bureaucracy...public employees... It's like nothing can be easy or simple, everything is complicated. Lack of customer service and amount of red tape I felt was ridiculous, not to mention attitude from public employees. When I went to get electric turned on for my parent's place, they sent me from desk to desk, only to end up in an office with the employee busy gossiping for 20 minutes! I had about reached the end of wits that day!

However, in all fairness, what I've endured on my Mom's behalf with the Social Security Administration in the US, that has had me at my wits' end too!

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Garbage, grafitti, grafitti, and grafitti. My BIGGEST pet peave.
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