tax in france

[rtsmith0810]

could somebody tell me what fonciere and d'habitation tax is based on and is there any car tax, this is a great way of finding things out you all know so much,ta

[Bevdeforges]

Taxe foncière and taxe d'habitation are what folks in the US call "property taxes." France splits the taxes on a residential property into two parts - the part that relates to the ownership of the property, and the part that relates to who actually lives there.

Like in the US, both taxes are based on the "property value" - though in France it is based on the "rental value" of the home, determined based on a set amount per square meter of living space. But there are extra square meters added for various "upgrades" to the property - number of toilets, tubs and showers, central heating, swimming pool, etc. etc. The local mairie should be able to give you the details, including the current per square meter figure.

As to car tax, not really. Certainly not an annual car tax like in the UK. You used to have to buy a "vignette" (window sticker) each year, but that was done away with a few years back. You do have to have a car inspected every two years, and display a sticker showing it passed - so if you count that, there is a sort of car tax in the form of getting it inspected (and any work that needs to be done to keep it in passing condition).

[rtsmith0810]

Originally Posted by Bevdeforges

Taxe foncière and taxe d'habitation are what folks in the US call "property taxes." France splits the taxes on a residential property into two parts - the part that relates to the ownership of the property, and the part that relates to who actually lives there.

Like in the US, both taxes are based on the "property value" - though in France it is based on the "rental value" of the home, determined based on a set amount per square meter of living space. But there are extra square meters added for various "upgrades" to the property - number of toilets, tubs and showers, central heating, swimming pool, etc. etc. The local mairie should be able to give you the details, including the current per square meter figure.

As to car tax, not really. Certainly not an annual car tax like in the UK. You used to have to buy a "vignette" (window sticker) each year, but that was done away with a few years back. You do have to have a car inspected every two years, and display a sticker showing it passed - so if you count that, there is a sort of car tax in the form of getting it inspected (and any work that needs to be done to keep it in passing condition).

thanks bevdeforges ithought you would know,so i would save over 2years £360.00on road tax and 1 m o t @45.00 as m o t is every year thanks very much for the info as i am trying to cost every thing i can.

[giantpanda]

Originally Posted by rtsmith0810

could somebody tell me what fonciere and d'habitation tax is based on and is there any car tax, this is a great way of finding things out you all know so much,ta

Hi!

They are based on the " valeur locative " of the premises. And that is a " science "no one really understands, because if you give the same data to 2 people in the same place, they will come to a different result. - NB. They take each tap into account -

That is also why certainly work done on French houses are never declared. And doing a reassessement usually can backfire, unl;ess you have eliminated buildings.

A reform since more than 20 years is being considered, but is very complex to make, because in no case it would be feasable to reduce the local tax income, which at present get loaded with even increasing burdens, without income compensation.

Now that will hardly help you.

Every city, town and commune has their specifities, so that the only rule that there is is really it will depend on how " rich " a place will be - i.e. is their tax income such - principaly the Taxe Professionnelle - to cover to the yearly budgets.

In some cases the Taxe d'Habitation can even double in one year, if " matters" have gone wrong locally.

When you buy a house of flat, this is one of the 1st things you have to ask the Immobilier if he does not volunteer it.

As regards, car tax, it has been cancelled some years ago. However ondiretly it is being reintroduced over the " ecopastille ' - tax on the th poluution level of the new car you buy - there is a bonus/malus system with 130gCO2 as brake even point. This is starting 1.1.2008.

How this will develop is uncertain - it is feasable that from a certain level of polution they consider renewing the tax ( eventually on a different basis ) in a yearly basis.

They have already introduced a " family " discount of 5 gCO2 per " enfants à charge ", so as not to penalise large families.

Yours,


giantpanda

[rtsmith0810]

thanks panda ,sounds a bit and miss,will have to see how the car tax comes out , merry chistmas to every body