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I could not find the applications online but they are pretty simple and it only took us about 20 - 30 minutes to complete and submit ours. Just make sure you have all the documents they ask for.

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Yes our issue is definitely with HMRC. We do have EHIC cards and I did ask about getting my husband on my S1 as a dependant but as soon as I said he was working they said he needed to apply for a workers S1.

Do you know if I can fill in the forms for the Carte Vitale online and then take them to the CPAM office?
I checked over on the Service Public site and they don't list any particular forms for this transaction. You may simply have to contact the CPAM office. Some transactions don't have forms for them and this may well be one of them.

Can your husband get any help from his employer on this? If the employer is withholding UK social insurances from his pay, they must have some sort of contact with the HMRC who could sort this one out.
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Yes our issue is definitely with HMRC. We do have EHIC cards and I did ask about getting my husband on my S1 as a dependant but as soon as I said he was working they said he needed to apply for a workers S1.

Do you know if I can fill in the forms for the Carte Vitale online and then take them to the CPAM office?
It sounds like you have had problems due to the "simplification" of the form numbers which was introduced a couple of years ago. You have an S1 (formerly E106) for people who are not working which is time-limited and based on previous NI contributions. As your husband will be working in France, his company need to complete an A1(formerly E101) form to state he will continue to pay UK NI and he should apply for a workers S1(formerly workers E106) to give to the CPAM.

The new rules were implemented in 2010 and are explained here:

HM Revenue & Customs: National Insurance contributions: new rules for workers moving around the EU on or after 1 May 2010 and their employers

This page may also help (it contains a link to an online form for employers sending an employee temporarily to another EU country)

HM Revenue & Customs: Residency - contacting HMRC electronically

Unfortunately, because the S1 form now applies to several different situations, and is applied for from different government departments, confusion can reign!

Good luck, I hope you get it all sorted out soon.

PS for your own S1 form take it to the CPAM with copies of every identity document you can think of (birth, marriage, proof of address, etc), as well as a Bank RIB and all should go smoothly. BUT take copies of the S1 before handing it over in case it gets lost in the system.

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It sounds like you have had problems due to the "simplification" of the form numbers which was introduced a couple of years ago. You have an S1 (formerly E106) for people who are not working which is time-limited and based on previous NI contributions. As your husband will be working in France, his company need to complete an A1(formerly E101) form to state he will continue to pay UK NI and he should apply for a workers S1(formerly workers E106) to give to the CPAM.

The new rules were implemented in 2010 and are explained here:

HM Revenue & Customs: National Insurance contributions: new rules for workers moving around the EU on or after 1 May 2010 and their employers

This page may also help (it contains a link to an online form for employers sending an employee temporarily to another EU country)

HM Revenue & Customs: Residency - contacting HMRC electronically

Unfortunately, because the S1 form now applies to several different situations, and is applied for from different government departments, confusion can reign!

Good luck, I hope you get it all sorted out soon.

PS for your own S1 form take it to the CPAM with copies of every identity document you can think of (birth, marriage, proof of address, etc), as well as a Bank RIB and all should go smoothly. BUT take copies of the S1 before handing it over in case it gets lost in the system.
Thank you tinabee. My husband has been issued with an A1 but the problem is with the workers S1. They said he was not eligible because of the length of the temporary contract, however after all the confusion I think we are FINALLY getting is sorted out.

Thank you all very much for your advice and links and I hope this thread helps other people in a similar situation and makes the process a little smoother :-)

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This is an old thread, but I am also having issues obtaining an S1 Form from the UK while living in France and working for a UK company. Although I will be living in France for the forceable future.

@Add1e - how did you resolve your situation in the end?

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There is apparently a temporary transfer arrangement that some employers are using to 'second' their employees to France while deducting tax and NI in the UK - this arrangement is apparently covered by the A1, but you as a wife do not get covered - therefore the need for the S1 which I understand you now have. From here you should not have too many problems getting your Carte Vitale, although sometimes it takes weeks and sometimes months, which probably depends on your local CPAM.

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