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Old 10th December 2011, 05:50 PM
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Oh Peg, I wish I could hug you. I feel the exact same as you and I know this is hard...I feel forced into it too. Best of luck with the rest of this journey. In the end you know you are doing what is right for your situation and family. It's just that no one should have been put in this position.
To both you and Peg - I join in your sorrow. My feelings have been evolving throughout the last few months. I will become, and stay, compliant at this point because all of my immediate family is in the US and I have no children. I still harbour (Cdn spelling!!) a faint thought of moving back to the US if my spouse dies and I have no means of caring for myself. I still love the principles I grew to believe in and remember every time I see an American flag.

But in the last few weeks especially, as I watch in mounting grief and horror at the criminally insane new laws being passed that are slowly turning every American on the planet into a criminal, and new tax concerns about the possibility of my innocent spouse coming under IRS scrutiny due to the intertwining of our financial resources, I have for the first time considered the possibility of renouncing.

This growing spider-web of US government power, enhanced by the intrusion of worldwide electronic surveillance which itself started out based on communications with so much promise for enhancing people-to-people interactions, is creating the dream of every tyrant - truly global power over every human on earth. And by the country that STILL claims to be the freest nation on earth. 1984 and Animal Farm are happening. Words have come to mean the exact opposite of their original definitions. And the US has become a government of men, not laws, where your future depends on the whims of a nobody in an obscure IRS office in the dust bowl somewhere. And where, most ironic of all, virtually any freedom fighter in any other country defends American principles of individual liberty with more passion and integrity than any elected American official who has pledged to uphold the Constitution of the United States. People still yearn to breathe free - but not in America.

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To both you and Peg - I join in your sorrow. My feelings have been evolving throughout the last few months. I will become, and stay, compliant at this point because all of my immediate family is in the US and I have no children. I still harbour (Cdn spelling!!) a faint thought of moving back to the US if my spouse dies and I have no means of caring for myself. I still love the principles I grew to believe in and remember every time I see an American flag.

But in the last few weeks especially, as I watch in mounting grief and horror at the criminally insane new laws being passed that are slowly turning every American on the planet into a criminal, and new tax concerns about the possibility of my innocent spouse coming under IRS scrutiny due to the intertwining of our financial resources, I have for the first time considered the possibility of renouncing.

This growing spider-web of US government power, enhanced by the intrusion of worldwide electronic surveillance which itself started out based on communications with so much promise for enhancing people-to-people interactions, is creating the dream of every tyrant - truly global power over every human on earth. And by the country that STILL claims to be the freest nation on earth. 1984 and Animal Farm are happening. Words have come to mean the exact opposite of their original definitions. And the US has become a government of men, not laws, where your future depends on the whims of a nobody in an obscure IRS office in the dust bowl somewhere. And where, most ironic of all, virtually any freedom fighter in any other country defends American principles of individual liberty with more passion and integrity than any elected American official who has pledged to uphold the Constitution of the United States. People still yearn to breathe free - but not in America.
Ladyhawk I think this is the first post I've seen on this forum that brought tears to my eyes, a lump to my throat, and a chill down my spine. Even after all these years of bitterness over Vietnam (which sparked precisely the same reaction you're having in the hearts of those of us who opposed that insane vicious and utterly pointless war and came up here decades ago).


Bless you and good luck. A thumbs-up doesn't begin to do justice to your statement.


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That's truly a great last paragraph. It pretty well sums up modern man's plight today!!
You must be a writer or something.
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This growing spider-web of US government power, enhanced by the intrusion of worldwide electronic surveillance which itself started out based on communications with so much promise for enhancing people-to-people interactions, is creating the dream of every tyrant - truly global power over every human on earth. And by the country that STILL claims to be the freest nation on earth. 1984 and Animal Farm are happening. Words have come to mean the exact opposite of their original definitions. And the US has become a government of men, not laws, where your future depends on the whims of a nobody in an obscure IRS office in the dust bowl somewhere. And where, most ironic of all, virtually any freedom fighter in any other country defends American principles of individual liberty with more passion and integrity than any elected American official who has pledged to uphold the Constitution of the United States. People still yearn to breathe free - but not in America.
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To both you and Peg - I join in your sorrow. My feelings have been evolving throughout the last few months. I will become, and stay, compliant at this point because all of my immediate family is in the US and I have no children. I still harbour (Cdn spelling!!) a faint thought of moving back to the US if my spouse dies and I have no means of caring for myself. I still love the principles I grew to believe in and remember every time I see an American flag.
Yes, as Schubert says, this brings tears. Thank you Ladyhawk.
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Did you know that Self-Employment Tax is not offset by the Foreign Tax Credit and it amounted to 14% of my Self-employment earnings? Even though my self-employment earnings one year were only $600 I still had to pay the 14% and it is AFTER all deductions, foreign tax credit and even the tax calculation.


Those years I did not pay CPP premiums because my self-employment and earned income was too low. I was a stay-at-home parent who did a bit of work.
I'm self-employed in my very small sole proprietorship business, and as far as I know I have never owed any taxes in the Canada or the U.S. My accountant in Halifax verified this when he did my U.S. tax returns. I did pay CPP premiums my last two years, because my income was just barely high enough, but I can't remember if I paid it that third year (I sent three years' worth of back tax forms).


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But in the last few weeks especially, as I watch in mounting grief and horror at the criminally insane new laws being passed that are slowly turning every American on the planet into a criminal, and new tax concerns about the possibility of my innocent spouse coming under IRS scrutiny due to the intertwining of our financial resources, I have for the first time considered the possibility of renouncing.

This growing spider-web of US government power, enhanced by the intrusion of worldwide electronic surveillance which itself started out based on communications with so much promise for enhancing people-to-people interactions, is creating the dream of every tyrant - truly global power over every human on earth. .
I also never thought I would view my birth country from EXILE, after having been PERSECUTED to the point where I do not even want to go back for a visit or a holiday.

Part of the problem is, when other regimes have done what the US is doing at least once people got out they found safe haven in the host country they emigrated to. What we see here is an (initial, at least) overall attitude of compliance coming from banks and governments everywhere, since understanding the situation we are facing takes time and effort.

Have you seen the news about the NDA that recently passed; now Obama and consorts have the power to detain for unlimited time any suspect that someone in the government targets as a threat. When I tell US citizens about this they are like "Blah, so what".
Do you know what GOULAG means? Governments who detain citizens without a trial: Stalin, communist russia, china, etc.... Here's a scoop: US citizens are now living in such a country! And nobody cares until Sarah Palin's cousin gets elected president and they start having government roundups at 4 am in your neighborhood!

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