This is not going to help

aykalam · #1 (**permalink**) 4th April 2011, 12:55 PM

from Sky News

Thomson Airways plane travelling from Bristol to Sharm El-Sheikh makes safe emergency landing in Athens after bomb threat.

DeadGuy · #2 (**permalink**) 5th April 2011, 04:48 PM

This isn't going to help either

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Salafi idiots reported to "warn" people of how "bad" and how "not Islamic" it is to be working with the "infidel" tourists and/or participating/helping them on their "obscene" behaviors (Drinking alcohols, gambling, visiting religious places that aren't Islamic, being "intimate" with someone they aren't married to, etc.).

Also there are some "voices" demanding to "hide" the ancient Egyptian statues' faces (Asked for it to be covered with "wax" to be specific!) Cause it's "against the Islamic rules" to have a statue with a face!!! Afghanistan's explosions were the first thing occurring to my mind when I heard that few days ago!

I don't think I should go public about what I "think" about this, I'm just sick and tired of talking about it........

God bless the democracy!

DeadGuy · #3 (**permalink**) 5th April 2011, 05:13 PM

Just realized that I did not mention where those "warnings" for Egyptians working with tourists were made!!!

It's Hurgada, been happening in there in the "last few days" according to the article!

Sorry about forgetting what's probably the most important bit of the topic folks!

Horus · #4 (**permalink**) 5th April 2011, 05:29 PM

I don't think this represents the view of the majority of Muslims

I feel a certain amount of acceptance, peace and serenity here and it's relaxed, I think Egypt has always been the best place in the world and will continue to be.

DeadGuy · #5 (**permalink**) 5th April 2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Horus

I don't think this represents the view of the majority of Muslims

I feel a certain amount of acceptance, peace and serenity here and it's relaxed, I think Egypt has always been the best place in the world and will continue to be.

This got nothing to do with anyone’s “view” of tourists/tourism, this is a pure religious matter, it is against Islamic rules to be drinking, gambling, etc. and those idiots are just "trying to advice Muslims for their own good"

And AGAIN, Sharm El Sheikh is NOT Egypt! People in Sharm show “acceptance, peace and serenity” now in there cause the Egyptians in Sharm are there for one reason, making money, and by now they know how important it is to show “acceptance, peace and serenity” for them to keep their jobs and income, but they don't "live" there, they just go there to make money!

But in Hurgada and other cities where “tourists” do/might exist, it’s not only people who work in tourism and appreciate a tourist’s happiness with their place, there are residents in there and those people “think” they got NOTHING to do with tourists or the money they pay in their holidays, and some of them actually think their cities would be better off without the “half naked drunk Europeans” in there! (Sorry for the way it's said, those aren't my words and that's not what I think about any European in Egypt!).

Anyway so far it’s just a “warning” for the “religious” side of “working” with tourists, which isn’t THAT bad, but if it started to be threats for those who choose to continue doing their jobs regardless of what religion says about it then THAT would be a serious problem, so like you Brits say, fingers crossed!

Horus · #6 (**permalink**) 5th April 2011, 06:24 PM

I suppose we just need to embrace Islam before it embraces us

txlstewart · #7 (**permalink**) 5th April 2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Horus

I suppose we just need to embrace Islam before it embraces us

Bollacks!

Eco-Mariner · #8 (**permalink**) 5th April 2011, 09:39 PM

Quote: DeadGuy

And AGAIN, Sharm El Sheikh is NOT Egypt! People in Sharm show “acceptance, peace and serenity” now in there cause the Egyptians in Sharm are there for one reason, making money, and by now they know how important it is to show “acceptance, peace and serenity” for them to keep their jobs and income, but they don't "live" there, they just go there to make money!

Then again, these tourist hot-spots are infiltrated with village folk and illiterates that bring their bad habits and rubbish for the sake of the cash the resorts generate and feed their families with back home..... And they bring along with them their religious beliefs and tribal mistrust. In so doing, Sharm is getting towards the same fundemental lifestyles that are brewing and fermenting in Cairo and Alexandria. Irrespective of Egyptians accepting the foreign invasion of tourists and residents, these nationals want to change us into themselves and that is a recipe for economic failure of the tourist industry..

Alan.

SamWelbeck · #9 (**permalink**) 6th April 2011, 08:24 AM

I'm disappointed by this thread and the attitudes shown here. I'm a muslim having lived most of my life in the UK and let me tell you.....Egypt is very tolerant. If Muslims tried to live the way they wanted in the UK it would not be possible so they have to compromise and the same must happen in Egypt. To say Muslims are not being accepting, serene and peaceful because they worry about the effect of behavior and ideas from outside is totally unfair. In the UK non-Muslims are just as worried about the effects of outside (non-British/Western) ideas. In Europe the covering of the head or the face is being banned. Is that "peaceful"? No. It stems from fear. The same fear that these Muslims are showing here. They are worried that if you drink, drinking becomes acceptable and more people will do it. Its just fear. The same way in the UK we would not want the use of Cocaine to become acceptable.

Lets all have respect for one another and try to get along. If Muslims had snorting lines of Coke as part of our religion I wonder whether in Brighton (UK) we would be allowed to snort in Hotel Bars? Not nice on the other foot is it?

SHendra · #10 (**permalink**) 6th April 2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SamWelbeck

I'm disappointed by this thread and the attitudes shown here. I'm a muslim having lived most of my life in the UK and let me tell you.....Egypt is very tolerant. If Muslims tried to live the way they wanted in the UK it would not be possible so they have to compromise and the same must happen in Egypt. To say Muslims are not being accepting, serene and peaceful because they worry about the effect of behavior and ideas from outside is totally unfair. In the UK non-Muslims are just as worried about the effects of outside (non-British/Western) ideas. In Europe the covering of the head or the face is being banned. Is that "peaceful"? No. It stems from fear. The same fear that these Muslims are showing here. They are worried that if you drink, drinking becomes acceptable and more people will do it. Its just fear. The same way in the UK we would not want the use of Cocaine to become acceptable.

Lets all have respect for one another and try to get along. If Muslims had snorting lines of Coke as part of our religion I wonder whether in Brighton (UK) we would be allowed to snort in Hotel Bars? Not nice on the other foot is it?

I can see that wires are about to become crossed here. I don't think anyone is saying they are against Islam they're saying their against the extremism of it..

You know in UK right now for the next 6 months there's going to be adverts promoting Islam on city buses with it starting in London first. Massive signs on the busses! There also be door to door people going around handing out leaflets. Do you think the Christians or other minorities ever being able to go out and do that here? Nope they wouldn't. So we can't really compare what happens in the UK to here surely since in UK you could announce and say 'I follow a god of trees which makes me a treeist' and no one would have the right to stop you!