How to be distinctive and the wrong approach

[DeadGuy]

Originally Posted by Mario

DeadGuy...did you manage to spend last night at home after all?without any unpleasant trips anywhere??

good to hear that you're still about

No no, not those "trips", not yet anyway, just the one that I was planning for

Just stay away from the "untouchables" and everything will be "ok"

[Sofia Cooper]

Originally Posted by DeadGuy

People still HAVE to pay a tax in here as well........Just like in the UK!

But unlike UK, there are no "women" who get any of the "taxpayers" money! Unless someone was working on getting a better image for himself/herself, then decides to "give" some of the taxpayers' money as if it was his/her own money!!! And guess what those "women" get??? A lovely useful 150 EGP.!!! WoW! That's A LOT!

But of course.......That's not anyone's fault LOL!!!

Well in the uk woman have many children without a husband or partner to support her or the children ,,,,we have a serious problem with one parent families and it cost the taxpayers alot of money .....the goverment try and educate about pregnancies but they still havnt got the message across, thus alot of one parent familes needing support thru benifits ... and yes of course Egypt have taxes like everywhere ,, but we have high taxes ...extremely high ...the cost of living in the uk is frightening

[DeadGuy]

Originally Posted by Sofia Cooper

Well in the uk woman have many children without a husband or partner to support her or the children ,,,,we have a serious problem with one parent families and it cost the taxpayers alot of money .....the goverment try and educate about pregnancies but they still havnt got the message across, thus alot of one parent familes needing support thru benifits ... and yes of course Egypt have taxes like everywhere ,, but we have high taxes ...extremely high ...the cost of living in the uk is frightening

I know what you're talking about, and my post was about that, it's the same in UK and in here, those needing "women" do exist in both countries, and the taxpayers do exist in both countries, but in UK, someone's bothered and trying to educate about something! But in here?! It's not even their money but they act like they're doing those women a BIG favor by giving them some of it!!!! Actually I got it wrong, they don't just "give" it, those women have to FIGHT for it!!!! And it's a really HUGE sum of money as well!! A 150 EGP per month!!!! What a joke!

[Sofia Cooper]

Originally Posted by DeadGuy

I know what you're talking about, and my post was about that, it's the same in UK and in here, those needing "women" do exist in both countries, and the taxpayers do exist in both countries, but in UK, someone's bothered and trying to educate about something! But in here?! It's not even their money but they act like they're doing those women a BIG favor by giving them some of it!!!! Actually I got it wrong, they don't just "give" it, those women have to FIGHT for it!!!! And it's a really HUGE sum of money as well!! A 150 EGP per month!!!! What a joke!

What a differance .....what a shame for the woman there .....and having to fight for it ......here girls as young as 16 getting pregnant by their boyfriends, and end up living at home ...still entitiled to some benifits ...then they get their own flat , they cant go to work as their boyfriend has done a runner ...then we who work foot the bill .
Alot of single mums here are young ...and its society of today.....they come from broken homes , parents divorced , and mother trying to work to bring in extra money ......so the teenagers a doing whatever they want and thus teenage pregnancies are high , and it goes on and on
All this costing the goverment money.... and as you know taxes go to the goverment . so no wonder the likes of the uk is in bad way and has been for years

[DeadGuy]

Originally Posted by Sofia Cooper

What a differance .....what a shame for the woman there .....and having to fight for it ......here girls as young as 16 getting pregnant by their boyfriends, and end up living at home ...still entitiled to some benifits ...then they get their own flat , they cant go to work as their boyfriend has done a runner ...then we who work foot the bill .
Alot of single mums here are young ...and its society of today.....they come from broken homes , parents divorced , and mother trying to work to bring in extra money ......so the teenagers a doing whatever they want and thus teenage pregnancies are high , and it goes on and on
All this costing the goverment money.... and as you know taxes go to the goverment . so no wonder the likes of the uk is in bad way and has been for years

A pregnant unmarried teen in here would probably get shot if not in Cairo or in Alex, not get help.......

The kinda "women" that need help in here are mainly widows, unlucky wives of junkies, wives of a hard working man that had an accident and can't do his job anymore etc. And they're only fighting for money to buy food and meds! Essential basics, Not for an apartment or a car!

May be the new UK government should consider sending those teens to Egypt to spend some time, I'm sure that will be an effective way for educating them about how "Dangerous" it is to be a pregnant unmarried teen

[Sofia Cooper]

Originally Posted by DeadGuy

A pregnant unmarried teen in here would probably get shot if not in Cairo or in Alex, not get help.......

The kinda "women" that need help in here are mainly widows, unlucky wives of junkies, wives of a hard working man that had an accident and can't do his job anymore etc. And they're only fighting for money to buy food and meds! Essential basics, Not for an apartment or a car!

May be the new UK government should consider sending those teens to Egypt to spend some time, I'm sure that will be an effective way for educating them about how "Dangerous" it is to be a pregnant unmarried teen

Yes what a dfiferance in teens here than there ..i think the western world have so much to answer for ....and alot of media is to blame ....girls growing up to fast ...wanting to look 18 ...etc ...dressed up like ..i wont say it ....many times on morning tv ..chat shows on young girls wanting to be mothers ...
What a shame woman have to fight to survive in Egypt ....like you say essential basics ....things that people take for granted .. the younsters of today in the western world dont know what its like to have to fight for bascis ....their to worried about what phone they are going to get... and all expecting .......and some with their hand open wating for their next goverment handout ... and i am paying for alot of this ...and its not just the single mothers ...its those who just bum off the goverment because they know they can .......but again i blame the goverment for not having a tighter control
And the new goverment wont make an ounce of differance ....they are all the same ....and have been over the years .....people are fed up with the same all talk .....this new goverment wont make an ounce of differance

[DeadGuy]

Originally Posted by Sofia Cooper

Yes what a dfiferance in teens here than there ..i think the western world have so much to answer for ....and alot of media is to blame ....girls growing up to fast ...wanting to look 18 ...etc ...dressed up like ..i wont say it ....many times on morning tv ..chat shows on young girls wanting to be mothers ...
What a shame woman have to fight to survive in Egypt ....like you say essential basics ....things that people take for granted .. the younsters of today in the western world dont know what its like to have to fight for bascis ....their to worried about what phone they are going to get... and all expecting .......and some with their hand open wating for their next goverment handout ... and i am paying for alot of this ...and its not just the single mothers ...its those who just bum off the goverment because they know they can .......but again i blame the goverment for not having a tighter control
And the new goverment wont make an ounce of differance ....they are all the same ....and have been over the years .....people are fed up with the same all talk .....this new goverment wont make an ounce of differance

Teen girls in here are almost the same as in there, but in here, they know how serious it is to be an unmarried pregnant one, so they manage to control that

And the new government thing..........Let's just hope they do something..........

Good luck!

[mardini]

Originally Posted by Mario

mardini!

(with what you have mentioned above) let's assume your good intentions of trying to educate the Egyptians and make them aware of the on-going daily joke they have been living in,so that they will be able to reform their own country!


Don't you think by any chance that this has been the wrong forum to deliver the message across to the Egyptians?(as far as I know it's called expatiates in Egypt)

Secondly, let's start with ourselves first... proudly to say...during the 20 years I have lived in Egypt I have never thrown any rubbish on the floor! And that's not because I have learned that in any other country! simply, it's because my family were bothered to teach me so!
So, if you see me for example cursing others, particularly Egyptians for preforming uncivilised action,e.g throwing litter on the floor or the way how they drive...
You would then accuse me with the above...(Egyptians curse one another and they even do it themselves!) I would say never ASSUME!

I agree with you for the second time about the pyramids bit and that the rudest people on earth have actually gathered there! but then forgive me if I am mistaken...but in Syria the same rudest bunch are there! don't know whether they are all related to one another or just a coincident!


Laziness
Finally, yes I raise my hand for that...I have encountered so many who said "it's not my job", but they seemed that they have managed to get away with it with their boss..so what should we expect then???

Allow me to use the UK as a similar example...and that's because this is where I have been living and working in! Believe it or not..on many occasions. I've heard the same phrase over here as well...but the only vital difference is that unlike Egypt, some might lose their jobs over this negative attitude

After all....yes if I have been a responsible citizen who refused to live the animals life by throwing litter and driving manically like so many others, and, and, and .....you name it!

Then YES I have to blame the law executors......

Good day all!

Mario, I never generalize, if you don't fit the description, it wasn't meant for you. I can assure you there are rude people in Syria and around the world, no exception.

Also, the post is in the right place, I am not giving advises to the Egyptian population in general, I am responding and discussing an issue of one in specific with other expats.

[Sofia Cooper]

Originally Posted by DeadGuy

Teen girls in here are almost the same as in there, but in here, they know how serious it is to be an unmarried pregnant one, so they manage to control that

And the new government thing..........Let's just hope they do something..........

Good luck!

Yes we know how lol ....and the gov wont make a differnance ....ever