Are there any genuine Egyptian men?

[Sofia Cooper]

Originally Posted by mardini

You are a smart lady, sadly, smart men can't claim the same.

Thanx Mardini but i feel its not about being smart its about me being, or trying to be as underestanding as possible, and not being biased in any way, seeing both sides of the coin as they say .....and in this day and age that can be very hard to do, i like to think as i get older i get wiser

[mardini]

Originally Posted by DeadGuy

Why the hell do I keep getting that from almost everyone talks to me online??!!!!!!!!! DAMN!!!

I don't mean it in a bad way, I mean I'm flattered to be considered none Egyptian sometimes, specially when the rest of the Egyptians around me are acting in a real "civil" way that would make any Egyptian feel "proud" about being one! But it keeps happening a lot for some reason! And it's starting to annoy me!

Should I start asking for females' phone numbers or add mine in every post I leave to make it clear that I am an Egyptian or something???

DeadGuy, the perception about you developed from your own writings, you can push the dirty wall all you want, and it won't move, or you can paint it with cheerful colors. I am not misreading you here. You did contribute to this forum with negative comments about your country and/or the religion, and you just said in what I quote you "I'm flattered to be considered none Egyptian sometimes" so, other times you are proud to be an Egyptian, aren't you?

Do all Egyptians post asking for females phone numbers? The Egyptians I know are not like that. They are well behaved, highly motivated, hard working, real positive, helpful for no return, and always proud.

Even as a tourist and when I visited your city Alexandria with foreign females friends, the people there were extremely nice, kind, always smiling, always promoting their country, and have always been helpful, none of them asked for special favors either from me or from the company I was with.

And I know I am not misreading you too when I understand the quotes you used around the words "civil" and "proud" as "uncivil" and "non-proud" as you describe the Egyptians around you, then why don't you change your surroundings? If it is all bad, all of it, then move. I don't know many high standard locations in Alexandria, but in Cairo, Maadi is a good place, 6th of October is a good place, New Cairo is a good area, Shekh Zayed, there are many other places, I know many people who can assist you move if you want. They will secure the right place, right people around you, you won't have to see "all" the bad people you refer to.

We Syrians greatly value Egyptians, it just isn't right what you are saying about them and is not fair. I want you to note that a Syrian always stood up for your country for no return, and I only interpret what the Egyptians I know are like. So, here again, as with my other postings in which I was replying to you, I disagree with how you generalize your negative description of Egypt and Egyptians. Egypt is not the twenty something years you lived.

As far as you not being sensitive to apology, it didn't matter, it was the right thing whether or not you asked for it. By the way, Egyptians I know do the same.

[mardini]

Originally Posted by Sofia Cooper

i think this may of been my mistake as Deadguy was quoting an opinion of a a western journalist , i hold my hands up to misunderstanding and commenting on Birmingham saying what a nice place etc .....oh by the way Deadguy you should never always believe what reporters write , as they can fabricate the story ,,
So really it is me who should apologise to Deadguy for the misunderstanding
I think i should leave alone and just log into FACEBOOK and chat with my Egyptian freinds there looool ...and experience Egypt when i arrive (joking)
On the serious side i apoligse to you both

Regards Sofia

Hi Sofia,

As to my part of it, you didn't contribute to the way I wrote my response. The perception about DeadGuy that was developed from his own writings" along with long work hours, just made me slip that detail. I should have looked closely. But again, sometimes, you'll come across a person that has such a negative attitude to the extent that you'll misinterpret a simple good morning by him/her, and my posting was not only about this detail, but about other postings as well that I had preferred not to respond to at the time.

I am really glad though to read reasonable people like yourself and the others.

Keep smiling, it's also a great exercise

[Beatle]

Originally Posted by DeadGuy

Hi there,

According to the techniques used to question my statements' credibility, one of the ways was asking if I "live" there, I said I don't, but here comes a British guy, a reporter actually, that happened to live there! Not just happened to be a Brit!!

Let me quote him in couple lines........ "Birmingham University revealed that some students would prefer to quit their course than expose their arms.

A Muslim radiographer quit at Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading over the issue.

Yet Islamic experts are divided about how Muslim women should dress as the Koran is ambiguous on the matter.

The revised rules, issued on March 26, make clear that staff can wear uniforms with long sleeves as long as they roll them up securely above their elbows to wash and when they are on the wards."

Here's a link for the whole article:NHS relax superbug safeguards for Muslim staff... just days after Christian nurse is banned from wearing crucifix for health and safety reasons | Mail Online

And I'm not "Welcomed" in UK by the way lol, but thanks anyway!

Good luck!

I too lived in Birmingham briefly and don't share your opinion on the area. However, it amused me that your opinion is based on a Daily Mail article as the newspaper is not known for its balanced opinions! It just seems quite surreal that you are expressing your opinion on Britain to British people based on newspaper articles. If people who hadn't visited Egypt made strong statements about Egypt based on what they had read on the internet, would you not question their credibility?

I have read the article though - I disagree with the emphasis the journalist has placed on how religious discrimination legislation is being interpreted in the UK. I am aware of many cases where Muslims have also not succeeded in claims brought under the religious discrimination legislation but those cases are not referred to. I am also aware of many instances where workplaces seek to accomodate religous practices of other faiths besides Islam.

But I am definitely off topic now!

But I am definitely going off topic now!

[DeadGuy]

Originally Posted by Beatle

I too lived in Birmingham briefly and don't share your opinion on the area. However, it amused me that your opinion is based on a Daily Mail article as the newspaper is not known for its balanced opinions! It just seems quite surreal that you are expressing your opinion on Britain to British people based on newspaper articles. If people who hadn't visited Egypt made strong statements about Egypt based on what they had read on the internet, would you not question their credibility?

I have read the article though - I disagree with the emphasis the journalist has placed on how religious discrimination legislation is being interpreted in the UK. I am aware of many cases where Muslims have also not succeeded in claims brought under the religious discrimination legislation but those cases are not referred to. I am also aware of many instances where workplaces seek to accomodate religous practices of other faiths besides Islam.

But I am definitely off topic now!

But I am definitely going off topic now!

Well, as I said before, I got my sources to check and double check on what I hear from anyone........... AND, It was NOT just a random statement! Saying it again! Just in case anyone still missed seeing it!!

Good luck!

[DeadGuy]

Originally Posted by mardini

DeadGuy, the perception about you developed from your own writings, you can push the dirty wall all you want, and it won't move, or you can paint it with cheerful colors. I am not misreading you here. You did contribute to this forum with negative comments about your country and/or the religion, and you just said in what I quote you "I'm flattered to be considered none Egyptian sometimes" so, other times you are proud to be an Egyptian, aren't you?

Do all Egyptians post asking for females phone numbers? The Egyptians I know are not like that. They are well behaved, highly motivated, hard working, real positive, helpful for no return, and always proud.

Even as a tourist and when I visited your city Alexandria with foreign females friends, the people there were extremely nice, kind, always smiling, always promoting their country, and have always been helpful, none of them asked for special favors either from me or from the company I was with.

And I know I am not misreading you too when I understand the quotes you used around the words "civil" and "proud" as "uncivil" and "non-proud" as you describe the Egyptians around you, then why don't you change your surroundings? If it is all bad, all of it, then move. I don't know many high standard locations in Alexandria, but in Cairo, Maadi is a good place, 6th of October is a good place, New Cairo is a good area, Shekh Zayed, there are many other places, I know many people who can assist you move if you want. They will secure the right place, right people around you, you won't have to see "all" the bad people you refer to.

We Syrians greatly value Egyptians, it just isn't right what you are saying about them and is not fair. I want you to note that a Syrian always stood up for your country for no return, and I only interpret what the Egyptians I know are like. So, here again, as with my other postings in which I was replying to you, I disagree with how you generalize your negative description of Egypt and Egyptians. Egypt is not the twenty something years you lived.

As far as you not being sensitive to apology, it didn't matter, it was the right thing whether or not you asked for it. By the way, Egyptians I know do the same.

A WONDERFUL…..Article? And an assessment for me??!! LOL!!

There we go again with the 2 eyes thing………You QUOTED me in “I'm flattered to be considered none Egyptian sometimes”???? I suggest you to read the rest of what I said?? Or is it just a habit to pick on some parts that would support your opinions and neglect the rest?!

But this time I’ll comment on some of your “points” ……Not cause I owe you an answer, but I’ll just do it cause the “argument” has turned to a funny curve for me actually!!

Originally Posted by mardini

Do all Egyptians post asking for females phone numbers? The Egyptians I know are not like that. They are well behaved, highly motivated, hard working, real positive, helpful for no return, and always proud.

If you really did read all what I’ve said then you’d have seen the word ONLINE????? And online conversations that got an Egyptian male??? They ask for females’ phone numbers or e-mail addresses 90% of the time!!! Or else they just throw their own phone numbers or e-mail addresses!!!!

Originally Posted by mardini

Even as a tourist and when I visited your city Alexandria with foreign females friends, the people there were extremely nice, kind, always smiling, always promoting their country, and have always been helpful, none of them asked for special favors either from me or from the company I was with

I really can’t stop laughing now! You really BELIEVE that I am from Alexandria for some reason! Few hours ago you were questioning the fact that I am an Egyptian, but now you’re TELLING me that I am from Alexandria!!! Life’s great ain’t it???!!!!!

Originally Posted by mardini

And I know I am not misreading you too when I understand the quotes you used around the words "civil" and "proud" as "uncivil" and "non-proud" as you describe the Egyptians around you, then why don't you change your surroundings? If it is all bad, all of it, then move. I don't know many high standard locations in Alexandria, but in Cairo, Maadi is a good place, 6th of October is a good place, New Cairo is a good area, Shekh Zayed, there are many other places, I know many people who can assist you move if you want. They will secure the right place, right people around you, you won't have to see "all" the bad people you refer to.

Again, I said ONLINE???!!!Besides!! Your “opinion” is based on the “FACT” that I live in Alexandria??!!!

Originally Posted by mardini

We Syrians greatly value Egyptians, it just isn't right what you are saying about them and is not fair. I want you to note that a Syrian always stood up for your country for no return, and I only interpret what the Egyptians I know are like. So, here again, as with my other postings in which I was replying to you, I disagree with how you generalize your negative description of Egypt and Egyptians. Egypt is not the twenty something years you lived.

Again, made me laugh!!! So you’re speaking for the WHOLE Syrians in here??!!! So I hope you got something to say about the Syrians that STABBED 2 Egyptian guys in Kuwait to death couple weeks ago??!! That must be so loving isn’t it??!!! Or now you won’t be speaking for ALL Syrians?!!!!

Originally Posted by mardini

As far as you not being sensitive to apology, it didn't matter, it was the right thing whether or not you asked for it. By the way, Egyptians I know do the same.

It is the right thing to do, and it would always be nice to apologize when making mistakes, but as you can see and as you said in one of your own posts, admitting that you do not know enough about something or someone is better than pretending to know more about it!!! But look at yourself! For God’s sake you’re talking like you KNOW me and you won’t stop even when I told you that you are wrong! You keep going on and on and on! And I’m not expecting you to stop soon to be honest! So keep them coming! You do make me laugh every time I read your “analysis” for me!

I’ve said that it is our right to know what kinda people we’re dealing with, and you do keep making yourself clear! And to be honest with you? I got a pretty good idea about what kinda person you are! But I don’t think you’d be that flexible hearing it IF I decided to talk about my opinions! But for some reason you think you have the right to analyze me basing on the funny “facts” that are stuck in your mind for some reason!

I dunno what else to say, but you keeping supporting how important it is not to judge anyone at all, followed by you analyzing that much based on imaginary stuff doesn't make you look good at all dude!!

Good luck!

[Beatle]

[QUOTE=DeadGuy;307693]Well, as I said before, I got my sources to check and double check on what I hear from anyone........... AND, It was NOT just a random statement! Saying it again! Just in case anyone still missed seeing it!!

[/QU!OTE]

Your opinion is based on Daily Mail articles and anonymous double-checking sources?! Oh dear but good luck!

[DeadGuy]

Originally Posted by Beatle

Your opinion is based on Daily Mail articles and anonymous double-checking sources?! Oh dear but good luck!

Lol it's not actually, I came across this article by pure chance, long time after knowing what I've said!

Good luck to you too!

[Sofia Cooper]

Originally Posted by mardini

Hi Sofia,

As to my part of it, you didn't contribute to the way I wrote my response. The perception about DeadGuy that was developed from his own writings" along with long work hours, just made me slip that detail. I should have looked closely. But again, sometimes, you'll come across a person that has such a negative attitude to the extent that you'll misinterpret a simple good morning by him/her, and my posting was not only about this detail, but about other postings as well that I had preferred not to respond to at the time.

I am really glad though to read reasonable people like yourself and the others.

Keep smiling, it's also a great exercise

It intersting to find someone so negative about their country and themselves !! as i feel exactly the same about the UK ......only for the fact for our high standard of living and bad weather (in which no one can change that) lol .....BUT Deadguy seems to have not had things so good ....i could be extremely wrong to say this , but i just feel that not all Egyptians are proud or happy,,,, and then you have to look into the reasons why ,,,, so therefore they are going to have a negative outlook and not have anything good to say about their country and people
So Deadguy ........your not happy there and iam not happy here .....i guess we need to re-evaluate our life and move looooool .......and Mardini no matter what i always try and smile

[animaltyler]

Hi, I have a very honest and trust worthy egyptian husband. We work together on the quad safari tours in Hurghada. He has never asked me for money and has always treated me like a princess. I have just recently had a misscarriage and the care and attention he gave me was amazing, I have never felt so loved. He has 7 sisters and his mum who i get on really well with and I am treated the same as everyone else in the family.
After a few awful mentally and physically abusing relationships back in England, I feel so blessed that I met my husband and was given the chance to start a new life with him here.
Like others have said, There are good and bad people evrywhere, but you'll know when it feels right. Just spend as much time as possible in real life situations with him before you make a final decision.
I hope you will find yourself as happy and loved as me.