Introductions - Please introduce yourself.

[MaidenScotland]

lol dont bet on it, Egyptian men are the world biggest opportunists

[verindersingh]

HI I am verinder Fromhave just moved to egypt for work . Moving to alex next week as our store is opening thier in Alexenderia city center. I am looking for people/ freinds who can speak english and i can have good company here .its tough to find good freinds. I love to meet new people ,visit new places ,love music ,Partying around And eat new food.This country has lots to offer . Hope to hear from your side .

Virender

[Riley87]

Hi all

IM SCARED!!!

Goin to Hurghada in October to make a decision about whether or not to move there in Feb 2010.
Any advice is welcome on getting a job, living costs etc I havent read through everyones posts yet but i will do now
Thanks guys
xx

[Riley87]

Originally Posted by Nickie Kyffin

Hi

My name is Nickie and I am in Hurghada at the minute. I have taken a career break from my job in UK as I met someone here 1 year ago and rather then give it all up I thought I would come try it for 3 months first. Well I have made my mind up and do want to live here permanantly. I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips about what I need to do such as visas, insurance, shipping and anything else that could be of use. I have never used a forum thingy before so hope I have done this right.

Nickie

Hi

How did this work out for u?

You sound like u did exactly what i want to do

xx

[New Gal]

People, a word of warning if you are moving for a relationship. Keep doors open in the UK in case you need to return and try to maintain your independence out there, be very careful and don't sign any papers, no matter how much your partner insists its for safety reasons or to keep the coppers off your backs.

I'm not judging anyones relationships at all, just a bit concerned.

To the lasy who asked about visas, you need to go the passport office in Hurghada and enquire there, think you will be able to get a visa for a year which you renew annually.

Feel free to PM if you have any further questions, I have researched my move to death (planned for 08/01/2010) and have visited Egypt extensively. I am also British but Muslim so can help with some of the myths floating around hopefully.

Best of luck to you all, but please plan and be careful xxx

[Riley87]

Originally Posted by Nasiya

People, a word of warning if you are moving for a relationship. Keep doors open in the UK in case you need to return and try to maintain your independence out there, be very careful and don't sign any papers, no matter how much your partner insists its for safety reasons or to keep the coppers off your backs.

I'm not judging anyones relationships at all, just a bit concerned.

To the lasy who asked about visas, you need to go the passport office in Hurghada and enquire there, think you will be able to get a visa for a year which you renew annually.

Feel free to PM if you have any further questions, I have researched my move to death (planned for 08/01/2010) and have visited Egypt extensively. I am also British but Muslim so can help with some of the myths floating around hopefully.

Best of luck to you all, but please plan and be careful xxx

where are you moving to?
Myth?.....i need to get a laywers 'marriage' document to be able to rent a flat with my egyptian boyf?

xx

[New Gal]

Riley87, these documents are legally binding in Egypt but are not Islamic practice. If he leaves though, you wont be entiltled to anything nor would any children you may have.

A lot of men state to foreign ladies that they must have this to cohabit, opinions are divided but there are definitely things to think about, don't enter into such a 'marriage' lightly as there are more horror stories than success stories.

Why don't you rent a flat alone, save up while you are here, remember even a couple of grand would be a years worth of rent out there!

I've sent you some PMs, maybe we should discuss there?

Best, Nasiya.

[MaidenScotland]

Orfit marriage is not binding in fact it is commonly known in Egypt as a shagging paper., and the man is free to walk away or just tear up the paper and is often used by Gulf arabs to buy young egyptian girls for wifes for the summer months.

No Egyptian man would ask an Egyptian woman to live with him with this paper.
If you are not taken home to meet his family then he is ashamed of you and or he is already married and his wife is living in a village somewhere
My friend legally married an Egyptian and had it registered at the British embassy, 3 years later he went out for bread never to return, by luck the day the signed the lease on their apartment he was held up in traffic and she signed by herself, after he left he phoned the landlady and told her that he had gone and to put his wife out, this didnt happen as it was my friend who had signed the lease and not him. A woman legally married to an Egyptian can be stopped leaving the country if he so wishes.
Dont get me wrong there are mixed marriages that work and indeed I have 2 friends who have been married to Egyptian doctors for 27 and 32 years and are very happy, but these are few and far between.
If I was to ever enter into a relationship with an Egyptian and he didn't treat me with the respect he would show and Egyptian woman .....well it just wouldn't happen.
Don't sign anything in Arabic.
Don't use lawyers who only speak arabic, your embassy will have a list of recommended lawyers
Don't hand over money for anything a man here is expected to pay for the apartment etc.
You cannot buy yourself out of national service now ( u could before) so don't hand over money to stop him having to go into the army.
Medical treatment here is cheap for Egyptians so when his mother, aunt, father, uncle need money for hospital treatment and you are asked for it dont give, may sound harsh but believe me they will have managed to pay for it before you came.
If you buy property you can and should have it registered in your name, your boyfriend may tell you that you can't and it must be in his name, this is nonsense.

You may think I am harsh on egyptian men, but in my line of work I see all "tricks" that they use to fleece unspecting women out of their money.

[Riley87]

Originally Posted by MaidenScotland

Orfit marriage is not binding in fact it is commonly known in Egypt as a shagging paper., and the man is free to walk away or just tear up the paper and is often used by Gulf arabs to buy young egyptian girls for wifes for the summer months.

No Egyptian man would ask an Egyptian woman to live with him with this paper.
If you are not taken home to meet his family then he is ashamed of you and or he is already married and his wife is living in a village somewhere
My friend legally married an Egyptian and had it registered at the British embassy, 3 years later he went out for bread never to return, by luck the day the signed the lease on their apartment he was held up in traffic and she signed by herself, after he left he phoned the landlady and told her that he had gone and to put his wife out, this didnt happen as it was my friend who had signed the lease and not him. A woman legally married to an Egyptian can be stopped leaving the country if he so wishes.
Dont get me wrong there are mixed marriages that work and indeed I have 2 friends who have been married to Egyptian doctors for 27 and 32 years and are very happy, but these are few and far between.
If I was to ever enter into a relationship with an Egyptian and he didn't treat me with the respect he would show and Egyptian woman .....well it just wouldn't happen.
Don't sign anything in Arabic.
Don't use lawyers who only speak arabic, your embassy will have a list of recommended lawyers
Don't hand over money for anything a man here is expected to pay for the apartment etc.
You cannot buy yourself out of national service now ( u could before) so don't hand over money to stop him having to go into the army.
Medical treatment here is cheap for Egyptians so when his mother, aunt, father, uncle need money for hospital treatment and you are asked for it dont give, may sound harsh but believe me they will have managed to pay for it before you came.
If you buy property you can and should have it registered in your name, your boyfriend may tell you that you can't and it must be in his name, this is nonsense.

You may think I am harsh on egyptian men, but in my line of work I see all "tricks" that they use to fleece unspecting women out of their money.

Oh my god. Now you're really scaring me

What line of work are you in and where in egypt do u live?
Thanks for the advice

xx

[New Gal]

Riley87, these are things that you need to hear. You're very young and none of us would want you to be made a fool of.

Mixed marriages that work are few and far between and Maiden has said it well, no decent man would use an orfi.

Please use the resources I have sent you and if your move is based around a bloke, you may find yourself reconsidering.

If you were to move for yourself and for your personal progression, you wouldn’t be getting scared.

Be very, very careful my dear, the majority of Egyptian men are experts at all this romance c*ap in order to con foreign women who don’t understand their laws and customs. I understand all of it, that’s why I say I would never, ever get into all this