New revolution on 24th August

[DeadGuy]

Originally Posted by expatagogo

Do you REALLY want to know what my opinion is? REALLY?

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[expatagogo]

Originally Posted by DeadGuy

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You so silly.

[DeadGuy]

Originally Posted by MassEgypt

Again that's your viewpoint. Thank you so much for sharing it but again that's your viewpoint. As the previous guy explained, this was a democratic process. Morsi was allowed to be nominated as a president elect. He participated in a democratic process to choose the president. His term is 4 years. This is the main issue that you need to agree with, internalize, and actually believe and implement.

If you had issues about Morsi courts are open to your disputed before and after elections. Everyone was against him yet they found nothing on him. he certainly did not have the power then, yet he prevailed. Whether you like it or not, he did. This is called democracy. More people thought he is the one to trust at this stage. While you voted for Shafiq (a proven thief, who fled after the election because he had no protection) or Sabbahi or Aboulfotouh, the fact is more people voted for Morsi and twice not once.

Whether the president is religious or not, this is again not your issue. This is a private issue. More people actually do want a religious president. If you do not agree with them you have to wait until he fails in his FULL TERM, then start your campaign to rally people to a different approach. But people tried unreligious presidents and wanted something different. They have the right to choose and try. and change is good.

Regarding the voting process, all the issues you raised was from non-official campaigners. Again if you have issues you can go to court and courts were very open to these cases. None was settled against Morsi because nothing was proven. however, if someone supports Morsi used religion to rally people, then that's not Morsi's problem. Again, individual acts do not matter in the big picture. Also, you are insulting the intelligence of people who receive these messages. In a democracy, people vote. If you think people are stupid then there is no hope. you need to get out and go live somewhere else. it is not hard.

Originally Posted by MassEgypt

Also just looking at your language, it is very obvious you hate this guy not because of his behavior but because of an internal issue in you. Using words like "gang" and others. Remember, he can use same words against you. Fact remains, he was elected, you were not. People like him, and they dont like others.

Regarding meeting international officials, i do not understand whats wrong with that. OBVIOUSLY, if you work in politics you need to meet international officials. Meeting officials does not translate to they are cooking something together. Politics is agreements and give-and-take. OBVIOUSLY!

Regarding Hamas issue, have you calculated the amount of money he channels from Egypt to Hamas? really? Because let me tell you that Hamas does not need your help. Hamas has money and support. The previous president was selling Egyptian gas and electricty to Israel for nothing. yet we did not hear you. This was proven in court by a member of MB as a co-counsel at the time of Mubarak and court issued a ruling against it but government did not act on it. We did not hear you then. So Morsi did not spend a penny on Gaza. Opening of roads to Gaza does not cost money. There is a huge trade between Sinai and Gaza for the benefit of both parties. Remember, people in Gaza only have this route that is not guarded by Israel. and there are 2 million or so who need everything supplied. Balance is actually for the benefit of Egypt because you are the supply, they are the demand. Also Gaza is important to the security of Egypt because they are the buffer zone. It is important to win them over and benefit from them.

The issue is anyone can read a news headline, and make his own assumptions and make stuff up. Two facts remain in place: if you actually investigate and study you will see a picture completely different from what you are painting. Second, if you have anything you can present it publicly or in court with evidence and with credible issues. You can also take it to court. Anyone can just talk. And no one did that alreeady. all people just present "talk". Tell me how much Morsi has spent on Gaza, and your evidence for it. There is none. If you have worked with Gaza, you would know Hamas does not need Egyptian help except in logistics. otherwise they have enough cash to buy Sinai.

WOW

Are you sure it's "democracy" you're supporting?

How "democratic" the voting/elections/results process was has been discussed before in a different thread, and it is debatable, but regardless of that, the only thing I said about the whole process was that the majority of votes were motivated by religious factors and for religious reasons, which is true, and whether anyone thinks that this affects the whole process negatively or positively is left to each individual to decide

Yes his term is 4 years, who said that August's 24th march was meant to kick him out? It was meant to be a march against both his empty promises/statements, him giving himself powers that he's not entitled to have, and his party's interference with the presidential decisions, it was never meant to oust Morsi or anyone, and it definitely wasn't meant to "burn" the MB headquarters either, but the MB managed to deceive the public and made them believe that whoever it is advertising for the march is advertising for violence, and that was a brilliant move, I give them that.

It's funny that you require "legal" evidence against Morsi in courts, Shafiq was allowed by a court to run for presidency wasn't he? And the number of votes he got was pretty similar to what Morsi got! But yet you're calling him a "thief" and criticizing those who gave him their votes while demanding everyone to "respect democracy"

Besides............Just cause there's nothing legally "proved" against him (Or Shafiq, or anyone else as a matter of fact) doesn't make him/them a saint/s, and definitely doesn't mean that everyone should worship him/them

If there's nothing wrong with meeting politicians then why did the FJP and the MB and the presidential spokesman rush to deny meeting any of the Sudanese, Qatari, American officials that they met at the FJP/MB headquarters in the first couple weeks after he was "elected"?

I never named Hamas. But if you're right and he never "gave" them anything, then why did he say they're his priority if he's not doing them any favors? Let's assume that he's not doing them any favors and that it was all empty "politics" talks (Just like his 100 plan ), shouldn't a politician be smart enough to choose his statements carefully?

And by the way, Hamas doesn't need to buy Sinai, why paying for anything you're getting for free?

Yet the most "impressive" part of your "article" is the part where you're telling me to leave the country!!! Can't anyone criticize him? Isn't that part of "democracy"? Or it's not allowed?!

That super smart statement of yours reminded me of an Egyptian a$$hole using that same exact line during the elections before! Demanding anyone that doesn't support Islamists in power to leave Egypt, he also mentioned Canada specifically as a possible destination (Is that why you're using the Canadian flag? )

And since you took it personal and used the word "you", A LOT, please let me ask a few questions...........

What makes you think that "I" have an "issue" with anyone being "religious" or not, including the "president"? And what makes you think that my vote went to Shafiq the "thief"? And you're "telling" me to "look at my language"? Seriously? But may I ask, do you always assume that anyone that's not happy with Morsi gave their votes to Shafiq? Or you just got an "issue" with him?

For someone that claims to be a "journalist/writer"? You seem to be taking things TOO personally, and very unprofessionally

PS: I didn't vote for Shafiq, ever, but I wish I did now that I can see how it pi$$es you off

[txlstewart]

When I was a Journalism major at a fully accredited university in the United States, we were told that reporting the facts without bias was key. Evidently that has changed. (See Mass Egypt's posts).

[expatagogo]

Originally Posted by txlstewart

When I was a Journalism major at a fully accredited university in the United States, we were told that reporting the facts without bias was key. Evidently that has changed. (See Mass Egypt's posts).

Is there such a thing as a Faculty of Journalism in Egypt? Does anyone know?

[MaidenScotland]

Originally Posted by expatagogo

Is there such a thing as a Faculty of Journalism in Egypt? Does anyone know?

I think there is one downtown, but don't quote me on it

[expatagogo]

Originally Posted by MaidenScotland

I think there is one downtown, but don't quote me on it

I have an imaginary course list in my head.

Don't get me started.

[MaidenScotland]

Originally Posted by MassEgypt

I rest my case

???

[MaidenScotland]

Originally Posted by MassEgypt

For tge guy above, they probably didnt tell u the difference between unbiased reporting snd opinion articles, did they?
Also they didnt really tell you that forums were not actually part of journalism, did they?

please stop using text speak.. it is against our forum rules.


I would guess they also didn't tell anyone that on a forum you can be anyone you want to be.

[jacknakhla]

August 24th march is doomed to fail.
Just look at the list of organizers and their history to reach that conclusion.