Housing fee on dewa bills/offer

[hopeful]

Hi guys, i've worked the housing fee out to be 10,000 aed per year on a 200k property. Is this about right?

Double checking things now, because hubby received his offer today and I think they are taking the mickey! They have offered 33,000 aed per month as a senior electrical engineer. Thats all in too, no housing allowance, no car allowance, nothing. Considering the housing problems in AD we won't get anything under 200,000 aed per year! I can't see that an offer this low can be right?

We do have some debt to pay off at home but even if we didn't, the offer would still be really tight, not leaving us enough a year for contingencies.

Any advice greatfully received

[flossie]

That's exactly right. You divide that 10,000 by 12 to give you your monthly fee.

I don't know what electrical engineers traditionally earn in Dubai so can't say if it's a good offer for his field or not. I can say that personally, I would find that very hard to live off, pay rent, school fees and save. Personally, I wouldn't move for that. In fact I would ask for at least that, plus housing allowance, plus school fees. But it depends on industry. Maybe someone in the same field as your husband would have more idea. I'm sorry, you must be so disappointed.

[flossie]

Just realised you're looking at Abu Dhabi. I'm pretty sure their housing fee is the same, though.

[hopeful]

Thanks flossie,

I'm really annoyed me, disappointed too but more pee'd off. Just because they know the state of the rental market in AD and to offer something like that is more a waste of time than anything else. We would move out there if at the end of the year we were equal, with just enough left over to know if anything went wrong would have enough in the pot to get by.

This is only because we won't survive at home any longer if we don't! The hubby has gone back to the RA and asked for 40,000 aed per month. I suppose all we can do is wait but I'm not hopeful, not anymore! I just can't believe they've wasted our time like this!!

[Shinjuku]

Hopeful,
Sorry to hear its not going as smoothly as you hoped.

I'm waiting for an offer too, but have a feeling that i'm going to be severely disappointed. (I'm a senior civil engineer applying for an Asst.PM role. The agency initially quoted the salary band for such a role was 23-25k AED, which i just laughed at , although he quickly suggested he could likely negotiate higher).

Mind if i ask how many years experience your husband has?

[hopeful]

10 years post apprenticeship, so I was a little shocked they were offering him this figure based on his experience, the fact that he has a family to bring over with him and also added to this that the rents in AD are sky high at the moment. If we got this offer in dubai it might be doable as the rentals are lower there at the moment, but we'd still have expected 35k per month.

Oh well, I guess he will have to wait and see, but its not a complete disappointment because I wanted to be in dubai, and now it means he'll be applying for more jobs based in dubai

[Maz25]

Originally Posted by Shinjuku

Hopeful,
Sorry to hear its not going as smoothly as you hoped.

I'm waiting for an offer too, but have a feeling that i'm going to be severely disappointed. (I'm a senior civil engineer applying for an Asst.PM role. The agency initially quoted the salary band for such a role was 23-25k AED, which i just laughed at , although he quickly suggested he could likely negotiate higher).

Mind if i ask how many years experience your husband has?

23 -25k for a senior civil engineer!! The agency is pulling your leg. I'm a QS with just over 1 year experience and that it what I got quoted!!! My offer is for more than that, with excellent career prospect! I would think that if you are a senior guy then you are definitely more experienced that I am! I know that QSs are generally very well paid but still, you need to negotiate for something more!!!! Might be worthwhile to apply for a position that will put you a couple of steps higher up the ladder. Not sure which country you are from but in the UK, an assistant will in all likelihood be a graduate straight out of uni!

[Maz25]

Originally Posted by hopeful

10 years post apprenticeship, so I was a little shocked they were offering him this figure based on his experience, the fact that he has a family to bring over with him and also added to this that the rents in AD are sky high at the moment. If we got this offer in dubai it might be doable as the rentals are lower there at the moment, but we'd still have expected 35k per month.

Oh well, I guess he will have to wait and see, but its not a complete disappointment because I wanted to be in dubai, and now it means he'll be applying for more jobs based in dubai

I know that you must be very disappointed and sincerely hope that things work out but, do you think it is wise to move out here knowing full well that this offer will mean that you will struggle. I'm not an expert in your husband's field but owing to the fact that he is very experienced, I would try and apply for more jobs, with the hope of landing something better. It might be better than coming to Dubai and struggling, considering as it is so difficult to change jobs.

I hope that things work and that you will soon be able to make your move to Dubai.

[Shinjuku]

Originally Posted by Maz25

23 -25k for a senior civil engineer!! The agency is pulling your leg. I'm a QS with just over 1 year experience and that it what I got quoted!!! My offer is for more than that, with excellent career prospect! I would think that if you are a senior guy then you are definitely more experienced that I am! I know that QSs are generally very well paid but still, you need to negotiate for something more!!!! Might be worthwhile to apply for a position that will put you a couple of steps higher up the ladder. Not sure which country you are from but in the UK, an assistant will in all likelihood be a graduate straight out of uni!

I thought he was, which was why i think when he realised i'd done some prior research, he immediately suggested he will be able to negotiate higher (like he's doing me a favour ) Was a bit disappointed with them though, as they're the most widely recommended construction recruitment agency in this forum.

From the UK as well, so am aware that Asst Engineers are basically Grad+ 1-2yrs. However the APM role called for 5+ yrs experience. From what i gather from previous threads, this should firmly put me in the 30k+ bracket, so won't be settling for anything less.
Maybe they can't afford to pay more for engineers, after all their QSs wage bills

[hopeful]

Originally Posted by Maz25

I know that you must be very disappointed and sincerely hope that things work out but, do you think it is wise to move out here knowing full well that this offer will mean that you will struggle. I'm not an expert in your husband's field but owing to the fact that he is very experienced, I would try and apply for more jobs, with the hope of landing something better. It might be better than coming to Dubai and struggling, considering as it is so difficult to change jobs.

I hope that things work and that you will soon be able to make your move to Dubai.

Don't worry, we won't be moving on this offer, its not doable in AD at all! The crazy thing is its with such a reputable company. Hubby says his QS section at work are all weird....least you get paid more to make up for it hey lol