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Old 25th March 2012, 03:50 PM
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Is that 18.5K in AED? Or what? I think if AED- no way.


Not poking, but just want to point out that a good deal of indian/pakistani/iranian/etc families live on less then 18k a month, with their mothers, fathers, kids, and ALSO have families back 'home' who require them to send good chunks back to them.

Is best to try and be diplomatic as we do not know the individuals situation at home. All we can do is try and point out that they will live in a much different 'lifestyle' then the dubai glorified lifestyle they see, on these low salaries but many are already a bit aware of that. Seems some of the new people just dont understand how segregated dubai is. Many find it normal to live in a one or two bedroom with quite a few people. There are indian schools that are 8 to 10k a month, instead of the western expat schools starting at 30k.... Just a different world then what a westerner is used to.

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I think the package is adequate, but your are going to incur a lot of expenses up front, like a place to stay until your Visa is ready (took us two months) the connection of your utilites and such. I would think you should ask for a "moving bonus" or allowance or something to help you out in the interim. Our company gave us 2months salary- to help us move (and paid for all our expenses involved in the move- all our ulitlies, our housing and our son's school, and a better salary- so there are perks to the EXPAT contract!) I think your company is getting by on the cheap. I don't think you'll be "rich" but you will be okay. Try to negotiate a little more. I think they NEED you here and you may have upper hand. Don't sell yourself short.
I can agree that there will be upfront expenses he should ask for help on but judging from the job boards in the UK this type of salary is pretty good for a 29 year old.

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C. Sept isnt mid session ?? Is start of the school year. If coming then, will need to get on the lists NOW.
September is indeed mid session for schools following the Indian curriculum (which has an April-March school year).
Check directly with the schools. GEMS Education has a number of Indian schools and just google them, go to their website, then go to the website of a school, and just call/email that particular school

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Seems someone is having a laugh. I guess I do not know what someone with the role makes in the UK, but that seems a decent salary in the USA for a fresh engineering grad to me.
That is exactly what I thought. They forget I have 10 years experience as construction engineer & qa & senior contracts engineer in a wide variety of construction projects.

Could anyone tell me what an avarege salary would be for a western principal engineer with 10 years experience working for a large construction company in UAE?
I already live in Dubai and have my visa sorted (sponsored by partner).

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It's a very good salary and you will be making more than most 29 year old single western expats. You can find a pleasant 2-bedroom apartment in the Marina or Downtown for 100K, budget 4K a month for basic living expenses and 2-3K a month for transportation. The rest will be saved or spent however you wish. An excellent position to be in.

But the other poster is correct in that start-up costs are quite high in Dubai. The typical apartment requires rent to be paid in 2-4 cheques across the year, plus the agent's fee (5% of rent) and the deposit (another 5%). Furnishing, connecting to DEWA, internet packages all add to the initial start-up expenses.



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Hi All,

My company is asking if I would like to move to Dubai to run our new office there(2-3 employees). The catch is that it will not be an expat posting and I will have a local contract.

I feel that it is a very good oppurtunity careerwise and am giving it a serious thought. I have been to Dubai couple of times and understand what I will be signing up to as far as the social and cultural aspects are concerned. But it is economical aspect that I am not particularly sure of.

My question to you good folk is, would a total salary of 500,000 AED per year with no additional benefits be enough for me (29 year old, single) to lead a "good life"? I will also get a decent bonus which will go directly in to my savings account.

I don't plan on living a flashy life but would like to have a little extra luxury than what I have now. I am looking at a good modern apartment in one of the nicer areas, a nice car and a decent social life.

Are my expectations reasonable or am I shooting for the stars here?

Thanks in advance for all your replies.

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Correct.

He needs to find an expat forum popular amongst Indian expatriates in Dubai, assuming one exists.

I imagine he can provide for a family on that income but it will mean living in Al Qusais where one can rent a decent 2-3 bedroom flat for less than 70K/year and utilising the inexpensive Indian schools. Western expats may not consider it a good deal but I imagine many Indian expatriates do. Where's Pamela when we need her?


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Not poking, but just want to point out that a good deal of indian/pakistani/iranian/etc families live on less then 18k a month, with their mothers, fathers, kids, and ALSO have families back 'home' who require them to send good chunks back to them.

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It's a very good salary and you will be making more than most 29 year old single western expats. You can find a pleasant 2-bedroom apartment in the Marina or Downtown for 100K, budget 4K a month for basic living expenses and 2-3K a month for transportation. The rest will be saved or spent however you wish. An excellent position to be in.

But the other poster is correct in that start-up costs are quite high in Dubai. The typical apartment requires rent to be paid in 2-4 cheques across the year, plus the agent's fee (5% of rent) and the deposit (another 5%). Furnishing, connecting to DEWA, internet packages all add to the initial start-up expenses.
Hello my friend,
i would like to have your opinion as well for the following salary package.is that enouph for a couple to live an affordable life in dubai with this money,we have no kids.can you suggest some good locations for renting an apartment for western expatriates?.
how long usually takes for a residence visa to be available for someone?.Does it really depend on the procedures the company follows?.How long it takes normally for goverment body companies in dubai to offer someone a residency visa?.

the salary package is that:

Total Salary :
AED (Dirhams) 19,214/- (50% basic and 50% other allowance)

Other Benefits:
· 22 working days paid leave
· Leave Passage for self, spouse and 3 children under 18 years (paid in cash every year)
· Medical Insurance for self, wife and all children (under 18)
· Annual increment and bonus based on employee performance.

No accommodation is provided. However, there is the following rent assistance, (if i wish to do so) apart from the salary package:
Ceiling of Rent Amount: AED 60,000/- p.a.
Annual Deduction Amount from salary : AED 48,000/- (Monthly AED 4,000/-).
Any amount above AED 48,000/- (but until the ceiling amount of AED 60,000/-, that is max AED 12,000/-) shall be covered by the company.

So what is your opinion?.Is that any good?.will i be able to do also some savings with this package?.
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I would truly appreciate it if anyone could give me feedback of this job offer below? I am 29 years old, Swedish Citizen and live in Dubai.

Job position: Football Coach and Animator

Basic Salary: 3500 Dhs month

Housing Allowance: 1500 Dhs month

Transport Allowance: 500 month

Phone Allowance: 500 Dhs month

Commission: 3% end of each month for sold specific product.

Leave and ticket: Thirty calendars days paid leave per years of service and company will provide with economy class ticket maximum 2500 Dhs annually

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Could anyone tell me what an average salary would be for a western principal engineer with 10 years experience working for a large construction company in UAE?
I already live in Dubai and have my visa sorted.

Anyone?

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I would truly appreciate it if anyone could give me feedback of this job offer below? I am 29 years old, Swedish Citizen and live in Dubai.

Job position: Football Coach and Animator

Basic Salary: 3500 Dhs month

Housing Allowance: 1500 Dhs month

Transport Allowance: 500 month

Phone Allowance: 500 Dhs month

Commission: 3% end of each month for sold specific product.

Leave and ticket: Thirty calendars days paid leave per years of service and company will provide with economy class ticket maximum 2500 Dhs annually

Thank you in advance
Although I do not live in Dubai, I do not believe these numbers are correct, unless it is in a different currency (Dollars or Euros for example) .

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