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#1 · (Edited)
Emirati officer gets six months for raping Briton - The National

The crime: Double rape (and of course consuming alcohol)

The punishment: Six months. Yes, that is six MONTHS.

The judge fairly went to town with this one and sent out a clear message - commiting rape is roughly on par with scratching your arse in public.

How on earth does the punishment fit the crime?
Is it three months per rape?
Commit three get one free?
This piece of excrement should be hanging from his Albert Halls but instead he will be out of jail in six months (possibly sooner I would guess) free to roam the bars and clubs for another prey.

Let's hope he finds a boyfriend in jail and see how he likes it a bit rough

Oh, did you notice the rapist is Emirati?
 
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I have always defended Dubai when my friends have argued that the laws are too strict by saying I respect their "you do wrong you pay the price" strategy as here in Scotland, you are lucky if a rapist is convicted let alone fourced to face a jail sentance in our glorified holiday homes.

I am dissapointed...
 
#8 ·
A lady was out drinking and got 'drunk', gets in a car with a strange male, which no decent woman would ever do, and she was 'drunk'. And worst yet, being a western women with loose morals anyhow probly 'gave him the oogley eyes'.So really it was her fault and this is just to appease the western folks.

Wonder if he will serve any time...

There is a big gulf between western world and middle eastern world and it doesnt quite mesh well.
 
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i tend to agree with jynx. if you don't want trouble in a middle eastern city (no matter how cosmopolitan it may look...), you don't get drunk with people you don't know (most certainly not with arabs, be them local or not), and you definitely don't jump in their cars for a ride.

this being said, any man who forces himself on a woman (no matter how drunk or allegedly willing she may be) is hardly a human being. i wouldn't sentence him to death. i would have his "jewels" and his hands cut, and then put in jail for life. the same should be applied to child molesters. i'd say they are animals, but any animal is better than that.

then again, let's remember the brit who killed and hid kelly's body. how's that better?

just stay out of trouble, especially if you're a woman here.
 
#10 ·
"If you don't like it leave!!"

LOL im only joking, that's a disgrace, but Its not a surprise...
 
#16 ·
In my opinion, it doesn't matter what a woman is wearing or how trusting she is, no man has the right to rape or take physical advantage of a woman based on this. It's just not justified. A rapist has mental issues. You don't just see a person turn into a rapist because he cannot control himself when a scantily clad woman is passing by.

Here's another case:
4-year-old raped by school bus driver, attendants
 
#17 ·
In my opinion, it doesn't matter what a woman is wearing or how trusting she is, no man has the right to rape or take physical advantage of a woman based on this. It's just not justified.
I agree, if I was living in Utopia ;)

No on has the right to steal. No one has the right to kill. No one has the right to cheat...

I would blame myself for leaving the car unlocked with my phone/wallet/camera out in the open, if someone was tempted to steal them. He would be wrong for stealing (and should be punished accordingly, if caught), and I would be stupid for not having the common sense to try preventing the likehood of the break-in.

That's why we lock the doors to the car and house, install alarms, don't walk thru dark alleys in seedy areas, keep an eye on the wallet when in crowded touristy spots, etc and etc.

The guy was definitely wrong and should had a stiffer punishment, but common sense goes a long way to prevent undesirable outcomes.
 
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But we're talking about rape, not robbery. If this is what the general consensus is, then we should all be wearing burqas and abayas so we do not "tempt" the men.
It's one thing to leave your cell phone some place and another to blame a woman for wearing revealing clothes. I do not advocate indecency but I will certainly not blame a woman for getting raped simply because of what she was wearing.
 
#20 ·
I do not advocate indecency but I will certainly not blame a woman for getting raped simply because of what she was wearing.
I said nothing about wearing revealing clothing. I had no idea what clothing she was wearing... For all I know, she could be wearing a miniskirt with no panty.

All I read was... getting drunk out of her mind and leaving the bar alone without a close friend to make sure she could get home OK, and getting into a car with an unknown man.

Is that common sense for staying out of trouble or inviting trouble, in your opinion ?
 
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#19 ·
An Emirati soldier's brain is on par with a baboon's. I'm surprised he knew how to work a cell phone, let alone drive a car. Definitely some wasta being tossed about in only a six month sentence. If there's any karma coming out of Buddha bar, the Emirati pig will get a$$ raped while in jail.
 
#21 ·
Not all local emirati's are the same as the next. Jpippy comment is quite rude to the local emirati's who serve in the military. :rolleyes: Have met a number of locals in the military and they seem to be nice and very pleasant. Do not tar an entire country... Least you as an american (as well as I) could be stereotyped and hated by most the world quite easily!
 
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It isnt her fault. I agree! Rape is rape. It is horrible. But western people can not come here, especially the ladies, and not bother to even try to understand the local culture and how people look upon their actions. I would know that if I agreed to get into a car with an arab guy at a club that he is going to take me for a whore. I hate that word, but that is the word all three of my close emirati friends use all the time in reference to western woman who drink, sleep with men, and dress immodest (which has LOTS of interpretations!). I hope he does get butt raped every day in prison :cool: but I hope that other women maybe take notice that there is a huge cultural difference that maybe that dont see nor understand nor have run into or ?? whatever.
 
#25 ·
Common guys ..Why are you doing generalization and prototype in this bad way.
There is no link between Islam and what he did or even between Islam and the punishment (Obviously They are not applying Islamic Punishments here).
By the way raping punishment could reach execution in Islam and by the way our also prophet sweared to apply the punishment even on his preferable daughter if she commited a crime,he said "Those who came before you were only destroyed because when a noble one among them stole, the left them but when the weak among them did likewise they enacted the prescribed punishment upon them.".
Guys..I do believe this forum is not the suitable place for insulting each other and stultify each other believes .
 
#27 ·
What you said is true Jynxgirl..I had one western friend and she asked me same question.Do Sudanese think we are ...OK..I replied to her that depend on the definition of this word in their culture I Know you are not ... but in our culture it is not related to taking money for that.
Anyway,I want to ask you Jynxgirl ..is it common ,even in western countries for a lady to take a ride with a man she doesn't know him, because only he insists? !!!! I am a man but believe me I'll not do that here or at any country .
I'm not saying he is not guilty..but we should all protect ourselves ,because we don't know people ..This man raped her but he could kill her also ..
 
#31 ·
New to Dubai

Hi Every body

I am moving to Dubai in May 2011,as a Financial Advisor.Can any one put me in the right direction for accommodation and what i should expect to pay as rent?

Would some one please also tell about the public transport,or is it that you need ur own transport to get around?

Thanks in advance

Maty
 
#37 ·
I dont think the responses are saying the woman had it coming. I think most everyone is trying to say that the court system was so lenient because of the situation that she put herself in and how those actions are viewed here.

The point is that people need to understand how in england or australia or so forth, a woman who is raped is raped and the person who is the rapist, will be sentenced based on the rape itself. Here, the circumstances as well as the nationality (local!!!) probly played a large role in the not so fare sentence... How many expats in uae overall understand and aware of this type of stuff?
 
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#38 ·
I think your remarks in relationship to favouritism / leniency based on origins of criminal offenders are absolutely correct and that many expats live in a bubble.
Fact: Emirates need expats to achieve their objectives.
Fact: Legal rights of expats are ignored if it challenges or affects an Emirate national’s interests.
Fact: Justice is definitely unbalanced if Expat compared with Emirate national treatment either as victim or offender.
Fact: A Law that is based on a religious foundation that won’t tolerate review, allow challenge or accept criticism for its short comings will never be a healthy Law.
Fact: Separation of State from Justice from Religion is the only means of achieving complete political and legal justice.

An expat colleague during my time in the region was badly and permanently injured while working in the UAE for an Emirate owned company on an Emirate project caused by company negligence. After leaving hospital he was dismissed as a liability and forced to leave without any compensation. The company actually used a Labour Law clause to claw back some salary and insurance paid him.

He was also advised by Emirate legal counsel that if he filed a claim costs would be greater than any compensation awarded if any. Anywhere else his injury compensation would have been multi $million.
 
#45 ·
I think they should publicise more stories about rapes than about people getting caught living out of wedlock. Hopefully that will help drive the point home that such crime happens a lot in this city. I wonder how many women are actually too scared to even lodge a complaint because they might end up being thrown in jail.
 
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@Nola,
I'm not going to go through each argument, tbh I can't be arsed, all I'll say is that I do agree with you, women should have that right (to wear, what they want, etc. etc.), I also agree that rape is not about sex at all, but power and control. it sickens me that my own kind could stoop to such actions. It doesn't matter to me what creed or colour the attacker is, it's the same crime. Just seems weird that a lot of attacks on western women here are by arabs and asians, not by other westerners. Unless of course the westerners are too drunk... :rolleyes:
There will never be one whole country where ANYONE, not just women, can walk safely at night, there's always the predators.

@Shisha Boy (aka Hubbly...)
Men are sexual predators? Unfortunately a lot are, me and most (you can never say all) aren't, some of us DO treat women as equals at least, some of us (much to the dismay of the feminists) actually DO put women on a pedestal - The woman should ALWAYS come first - unfortunately we aren't all like that.

@Hmorrar
How do you know I don't know what's written in the koran? Huge (and totally incorrect) assumption. With islam it's all in the interpretation, hence the mullah's etc. decree what is or isn't allowed. I also never said islam teaches you to abuse women? The statement about it's OK to beat your wife was not written by an editor, but by the UAE's highest court HERE. I also never said that in European cultures it was deemed acceptable to rape or beat women? Unfortunately the UAE Highest Court doesn't agree with me and quoted Sharia Law as the reasoning behind this.

Bottom line is (pardon the pun), he was a drunken predator that preyed on a weak woman who declined the lift a few times but he insisted.
He should be castrated.

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