Eid Holidays Announced...

[ComS]

So hold on, to summarise.. only a few more days before the clubbing and the drinking starts again ?! Wooo I'll be waiting on the roof waiting for the moon to show...

Also don't forget generally people go shopping for new clothes for Eid and also are out and about in the best cars money can buy / rent so it promises to be quite a night from what I've been hearing from people... whenever it is and also the ladies get a excuse for shopping- just another one incase any of you were lacking

[Sumair]

The Astronomical New Moon is on Septmeber 18, 2009 (Friday) at 18:44 UT. This moon is not visible anywhere on September 18. On September 19, it will still not be visible in Asia, Europe and Canada. It can easily be seen in South Africa and South America on Sep 19. On the same day, with difficulty, it is possible to be seen in Western Australia, Central Africa, Caribbean Islands, Central America and very Southern areas of USA ( source moonsghting.com)

Most Probably the Eid will be on Monday. ( Allah knows best).


Anyways Eid Kareem to all.

[Sumair]

Originally Posted by Suey

lol….but no, you need to explain more on this moon sighting issue; don’t you think basing on the moon is quite medieval? For instance, what if, geographically, something happens and the moon doesn’t turn up for more than 2 days? Would EID be postponed until the moon shows?

Why do they say Saudi is the first to sight the moon, I though the world being a globe and any places on the same latitude would equally be able to sight the moon at the same time and isn’t that sometimes the moon sets before sunset in Saudi?

See more explanation needed…

Dear Suey,

Some explanations of moon sighting we already found some of them are listed below:

1) Why muslims prefer moon sighting instead of going 100% by scientific calculation:
New Moon birth calculations are based on observation by observatories and they are not just mathematical calculations. What they calculate today for any future date may not be exact, because the orbits and speeds of moon and earth changes slightly and may be different 5 years from now.
Science can give approximate hours hilal can be seen with naked eye, binoculars, or telescope. There is no exact answer, because there are many other factors that are more important for visibility such as atmospheric conditions, human optics, experience of observer etc.
It is true that on any given day new hilal is seen in some parts of the earth, and not others. This is due to curvature of the earth. Astronomical calculations for possibility of sighting new moon with naked eye or by telescope by its own definition (possibility) cannot be exact.
Time passed after New Moon Birth is called the age of the moon. Sighting is possible at different age in different months. The orbit of the moon is elliptical and in its orbit, the moon moves faster when it is closer to the earth, and slower when it is farther from earth. When it moves faster, the moon becomes visible at smaller age (like 17 hours), and when it moves slower, it becomes visible at larger age (like 23 hours). The main factor that makes the moon visible is the angle between moon-earth-sun. When this angle becomes about 9 degrees, the moon starts to be visible. How much time it takes to get this angle depends upon the speed of the moon in its orbit.

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2) Importance of moon sighting in Islam

There are many injunctions in Shari’ah ( Islam) that are implemented due to the determination of lunar months. For example, fasting, hajj, and both annual celebrations such as Eid-ul-Fitr and Eid-ul-Adha are all determined by the lunar months. The Gregorian calendar has nothing to do with such injunctions.

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Now the only question remains is whether it is permissible to use scientific instruments or calculations to determine the first day moon.

I am agree with the answer that it is permissible to use scientific instruments but it is not permissible to use scientific calculations. ( Allah knows best)

Any question welcome.

Best Regards

[rxydxy]

Hi there,

This is a really nice conversation .

Does anyone know about management consulting firms? Do they obey to this holiday? (given the fact that they are more globally oriented... US originated...)

I am planning to go for interviewing with some of them, but this whole lunar-sighting makes it nearly impossible to plan appropriately.

Thanks for any insights, and best regards,
rxydxy

[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by rxydxy

Hi there,

This is a really nice conversation .

Does anyone know about management consulting firms? Do they obey to this holiday? (given the fact that they are more globally oriented... US originated...)

I am planning to go for interviewing with some of them, but this whole lunar-sighting makes it nearly impossible to plan appropriately.

Thanks for any insights, and best regards,
rxydxy

This particular Eid is over.

If there is a public holiday then ALL companies are legally obliged to comply.

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[rxydxy]

Originally Posted by Elphaba

This particular Eid is over.
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Hi Elphaba,

I thought we were talking about Eid al Adha this November. Anyway, thanks for your prompt and useful reply!

Best regards,
rxydxy

[M123]

Originally Posted by rxydxy

Hi there,


I am planning to go for interviewing with some of them, but this whole lunar-sighting makes it nearly impossible to plan appropriately.


rxydxy

It's not impossible

e.g next Eid is 27th/28th November, so you can quite easily plan around that well in advance of the date.

[rxydxy]

Originally Posted by M123

It's not impossible

e.g next Eid is 27th/28th November, so you can quite easily plan around that well in advance of the date.

Thanks. When I have a look at wikipedia, there's stated for Eid al Adha: "November 27 to November 30 (calculated)".

How did you figure out the 27th & 28th?

Sorry for asking so much... why don't they just have fixed holidays? :-) Like Dec 2 :-)

Best regards,
rxydxy

[M123]

hi, it's based on the lunar months.

Eid day is on the tenth of that lunar month (that month is called Dhul Hijja), and the tenth is 27th or 28th November depending on the announcement of the first of Dhul Hijja.

The Eid itself is a 3 day period, which is why your information gives you 27th-30th, because it presumes that 27th is Eid day.

Hope that makes sense.

[rxydxy]

Thank you, M123!