Moved from South to North Cyprus

[Stravinsky]

Originally Posted by Pam n Dave

I'm sorry, but I may have phrased the question badly. With the exception of Turkey none of the countries of the world including the Muslim and non-European countries recognize the northern part of Cyprus, but they do recognize the southern part of Cyprus. Why?

Well I guess the answer that Tim doesn't want to give is that they regard it as an illegal occupation

[Pam n Dave]

That was my thought but maybe he would like to give another explanation.

[davey50]

With the pressure on the Greeks to accept the Annan Plan or some variation of it, prices in the North are likely to rise some 75-90 percent in the next couple of years.

In your dreams! What are you on?
There is a property slump throughout Europe and this includes North Cyprus.
I shall make a point of contacting you again in exactly 2 years time to hear of anybody who has made 75% profit on property in the north.

It's almost certain that any property will decrease in value over that time.

[Veronica Kneeshaw]

Ofcourse the turks are friendly to you. They are selling you land which in many cases they do not own legally as it still belongs to the Greek Cypriots they ousted from their own homes.
The Greek Cyriots would be happy to sign to the annan plan if they were offered compensation for the loss of their homes and lands.
Turkish land in the South is left untouched while Greek land in the North is plundered by the Turks.
If there is ever a resolution to the problem Brits may find they lose thier homes in the North with no chance of any compensation.
So what may seem to be a great bargain now could prove to be the downfall of any Brits who see only the cheap prices in the North.
We sell property in Cyprus and refuse to sell anything in the North despite having been approached by developers in the North to promote their properties.
Our aim is to take care of our clients, not let them be ripped of by greedy developers who care only about a fast buck.
I would strongly advise anyone against buying in the north.

[Veronica Kneeshaw]

Originally Posted by Tim10

I just do not like the South. The people are very cold -- they have an Arctic personality and are not hospitable.

As per property problems, what about all the South Cyprus land that was stolen from Turks in 1974 after the landowners were killed! At least the North Cypriots are willing to compensate those who lost their land. So given this, please tell me, where are the true land title problems? Let me answer: South Cyprus!

Who has told you the Turks are willing to compensate the Greeks? Try telling that to our lovely friendly Cypriot neighbours who lost their homes in the North and have been told they may never recieve any compensation.
They went to see their homes when the borders were opened and it uspet them so much to see the condition that Turkish immigrants were living in in the lovely houses they had to leave behind.
What had been lovely family homes are now no better than animal sheds with the immigrant Turks living in the houses together with their animals.
Sorry Tim you have been brainwashed by the Turks because you saw a quick killing by moving from the South to the North.
Also we have lived here for nearly 4 years now and have always found the Greek Cypriots very friendly and hospitable.
To say that the international community does not recognise Northern Cyprus because of racist motives is totally untrue. It is the continuation of the illegal seizing of Greek Cypriot land and their refusal to compensate the rightful owners that is the reason for this.
Just as a matter of interest we have a friend who has bought in the North because of the cheap prices and now the house is built they have been told there is no chance whatsoever that they will have water or electricity for at lease 5 years because the infrastructure cannot cope with the expansion. We did try to warn them but greed got in the way, they were influenced by the cheap price of the property.
They now wish they had bought in the South. They would now have been living happliy here like us.

[gloucester_geezer]

Hello all,

It is amazing really to keep reading all the 'poison' that flows regarding the North/South divide of the island. People saying that the Turks live in 'Greek' owned houses with their animals... that there is no infraststructure.... that water and electricity take 5 years to connect.... that the Turks stole Greek Cypriot land.

The land, pre 74, was not 'Greek Cypriot'.. it was 'Cypriot'. A mixture of Greek and Turkish Cypriots. Funny that Tim makes some positive comments regarding the north and all of a sudden he is a paid hand! Everyone else can make positive comments regarding the south but they are not paid hands! Work that one out! There are definatley people on this website that have a vested interest in putting people off buying in the north, that is obvious from the regularity and content of their input.

As I have stated before on here, I have spent a great deal of time on the island, and stayed on both sides of the border. There are positives and negatives on both sides. The start of this thread I totally agree with; the attitude of the Greek Cypriots towards Brits has changed dramatically over the past 20 years. Back then we were in favour, now the Russians are top of the tree and the Brits are not in favour anymore. Riots a few years ago, burning police and military vehicles, anger over the Brit military bases.. etc. all show how feelings towards Brits have declined. However, many people still enjoy Cyprus, both North and South, and I am one of those people.

I am not Pro North or Pro South, but things should be looked at without the constant need for sniping across the border. No wonder there is not an agreement regarding the island.... even the Brit expats are joining in the *****ing. How about just focusing on the expat way of life in relation to replies on here, and leave the politics of Cyprus to the Cypriots?!

[Veronica Kneeshaw]

The problems with the infrastructure is FACT.
Our friends are in dire straits with a house they cannot live in because they will not get electricity for at least 5 years. This is not hearsay or propaganda, it is FACT.
My only concern is to stop other people falling into the same trap my friends are in.
I lived here for many years before the split and it saddens me to see what has happened. The Greek and Turkish Cypriots used to live happily side by side now they are at each others throats all the time.
What is happening in the North is not down to the the turkish Cypriots but the Turkish govenrment and the immigrants that they flooded the north with.
Turkish Cypriots are equally unhappy with what is happening as they now are fast becoming a minority in their own home land with immigrant Turks taking over. The immigrant policy of Turkey is illegal and this is one of the sticking which is making a resolution more difficult than it would otherwise be.
I have no axe to grind, politcal or otherwise with Turkish Cypriots.

[kimonas]

I agree with Gloucester Geezer - we should leave the Cyprus problem to the politicians. However, it would probably be better for all if a few history lessons were posted to keep all parties informed. The intervention from the Turkish army was warded off for 10 years of Turko-Greek wrangling following the eruption of violence and genocide in 1964 when the Green Line divide was established in Nicosia- this hardly constitutes living peacefully side by side (the majority of Turkish Cypriots lived in impoverished enclaves until 1974). The UN peacekeeping reports from 1964-1974 are full of incidents of internecine violence against enclaves and retaliations – none of which has made it into any half decent history owing to the propaganda machines of the Greek Cypriot dominated Government. The Government in the south still successfully promotes a biased version of the past which, because of the 1960 constitution and the legitimate UN involvement in promoting it, means that the TRNC will never be recognised internationally. It may also be worth pointing out that the Greeks invaded in 1974 to overthrow the Cypriot Government. The Turkish intervention was made legitimately under the Treaty of Guarantee which upheld the rights of Greek and Turkish Cypriots.