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Many threads speculate about Cyprus leaving euro and EU. Pity I there is no use linking to an article in the biggest Swedish newspaper today morning there it say's that Mr Cameron now opens up for a UK referendum about the UK membership in EU.
What I remember I have seen more then one poll where the UK people say NO to EU

Wonder what the result will be if also the referendum result in a NO

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The issue of UKs membership in the Eu has rumbled on for years and I suspect it will continue to do so for a long time. The fact is that Britain cannot afford to lose the benefits they get from being a member but they are stupid enough to stick rigidly to EU rules while other countries pick and choose which rules they will stick to and which they will ignore.
Perhaps if the UK were to be less accomodating to every stray who lands lands on their shores, giving handouts and benefits for people to send home to their countries for their familes to build big fancy houses while British citizens live in poverty the coutnry might not be in the state it is in.
There is so much about Cyprus economy at the moment but in fact Britains economy is just as shaky if not more but many Brits choose not to recognise that fact.
The generation that comes after ours will in all probability not recieve any old age pension when they are forced to retire because the welfare system has given all the money away to foreigners.

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the news said Cameron is prepared to consider an EU vote "when the time is right"BBC News - David Cameron 'prepared to consider EU referendum'

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The time is right for what? That he can be sure he get the answer he wants or....

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The issue of UKs membership in the Eu has rumbled on for years and I suspect it will continue to do so for a long time. The fact is that Britain cannot afford to lose the benefits they get from being a member but they are stupid enough to stick rigidly to EU rules while other countries pick and choose which rules they will stick to and which they will ignore.
Perhaps if the UK were to be less accomodating to every stray who lands lands on their shores, giving handouts and benefits for people to send home to their countries for their familes to build big fancy houses while British citizens live in poverty the coutnry might not be in the state it is in.
There is so much about Cyprus economy at the moment but in fact Britains economy is just as shaky if not more but many Brits choose not to recognise that fact.
The generation that comes after ours will in all probability not recieve any old age pension when they are forced to retire because the welfare system has given all the money away to foreigners.
I dont know what rules you mean others pick and choose and UK stick to but one of the most important is the one about deficit and all countries seem to ignore that one, UK in particular.

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I dont know what rules you mean others pick and choose and UK stick to but one of the most important is the one about deficit and all countries seem to ignore that one, UK in particular.
Dont confuse EU and Eurozone, they are totally different! I am sure UK will not vote to leave the EU, but am certain we will never join the Euro. We will not be controlled nor dictated to by a German government!


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The issue of UKs membership in the Eu has rumbled on for years and I suspect it will continue to do so for a long time. The fact is that Britain cannot afford to lose the benefits they get from being a member but they are stupid enough to stick rigidly to EU rules while other countries pick and choose which rules they will stick to and which they will ignore.
Perhaps if the UK were to be less accomodating to every stray who lands lands on their shores, giving handouts and benefits for people to send home to their countries for their familes to build big fancy houses while British citizens live in poverty the coutnry might not be in the state it is in.
There is so much about Cyprus economy at the moment but in fact Britains economy is just as shaky if not more but many Brits choose not to recognise that fact.
The generation that comes after ours will in all probability not recieve any old age pension when they are forced to retire because the welfare system has given all the money away to foreigners.
Well said! There is far too much influence from outside of our country. This is why we should never join the Euro, unless of course we want to be controlled by Germany!!

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Pity that noone see that Germany now carries most of the burden in EU. If the people of Germany next election say that we have had enough, then its time to get REALLY worry.

UK has always gone their own way. Left Hand Drive, No metric system, No Euro, No Schengen, Crazy rules for just visiting the country over a weekend even if you have unlimited permission to stay in EU. Have UK gained anything on this? Less immigrants, more tourists etc.
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The time is right for what? That he can be sure he get the answer he wants or....
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Pity that noone see that Germany now carries most of the burden in EU. If the people of Germany next election say that we have had enough, then its time to get REALLY worry.

UK has always gone their own way. Left Hand Drive, No metric system, No Euro, No Schengen, Crazy rules for just visiting the country over a weekend even if you have unlimited permission to stay in EU. Have UK gained anything on this? Less immigrants, more tourists etc.
I just wonder
Politics is really an issue people should avoid discussing to much as it always leads to a disagreement
I agree with ots you and disagree with some other points

Yes Germany is carrying a lot of burden and also has probably the best economy in Europe due to the wya it works.
Uk being different YES and so what
steering wheel, I think history shows right hand drive was first although I may be wrong, if visiting the UK is so hard to do why do we have so many illegal immigrants then staying out of the Euro is a + had we been in it then our situtation would be far worse than it is I would say that we stick to more rules than most other european countries I dont see to many brits going to European countries and getting state benefits and housing which happens here and its Brits that are loosing out

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