Moving back to the uk

[RHODES4712]

I am surprised you haven't got loads of friends in Cyprus, it might be just me but I've lived in the uk for nearly 40 years and if I'm being honest I find most English people to be greedy and disrespectful, they have no manners and no self respect. It costs nothing to say please and thank you and to be aware of your surroundings. I forget how many times I've had to ask people to excuse me in supermarkets as they seem to think they are the only ones on the planet and just stand in groups talking all day when people are trying to shop. Not only that theft burglary and murders are getting out of hand now and it's everywhere in uk. So I'll be honest with you if I were to have children I really wouldn't want to raise them in England, but like I say it might just be me. But this is just my opinion and because you say you are so lonely and miss your family I do hope everything works out for you if you go back to uk. I can also say I am not greedy as this time last year my wife and I were earning £93000,00 a year in salaries and we have decided to pack the jobs in and come to Cyprus as having the money has been the worst thing we could have done. I can certainly say that the last ten years of earning it has made both of us miserable and taken its toll on our health. We will be looking to buy a small house in Cyprus and get back to basics with village life no fancy cars or pools. Fresh fruit and veg will be a luxury to us as almost everything is imported in the uk.

[cassie1812]

Originally Posted by RHODES4712

I am surprised you haven't got loads of friends in Cyprus, it might be just me but I've lived in the uk for nearly 40 years and if I'm being honest I find most English people to be greedy and disrespectful, they have no manners and no self respect. It costs nothing to say please and thank you and to be aware of your surroundings. I forget how many times I've had to ask people to excuse me in supermarkets as they seem to think they are the only ones on the planet and just stand in groups talking all day when people are trying to shop. Not only that theft burglary and murders are getting out of hand now and it's everywhere in uk. So I'll be honest with you if I were to have children I really wouldn't want to raise them in England, but like I say it might just be me. But this is just my opinion and because you say you are so lonely and miss your family I do hope everything works out for you if you go back to uk. I can also say I am not greedy as this time last year my wife and I were earning £93000,00 a year in salaries and we have decided to pack the jobs in and come to Cyprus as having the money has been the worst thing we could have done. I can certainly say that the last ten years of earning it has made both of us miserable and taken its toll on our health. We will be looking to buy a small house in Cyprus and get back to basics with village life no fancy cars or pools. Fresh fruit and veg will be a luxury to us as almost everything is imported in the uk.

I do have friends here but its not the same, I know the UK is going down hill but I like Milton Keynes and I would like to eventually settle there. I hate Luton adn I think 99.9% of people that live there do, I just miss my family and seeing my sister and having lunch with mum, sounds ridiculous but I just miss that, the homely stuff. I agree with you though, I dont want to bring my kids up in Luton but I also dont want to bring my kids up with its close family 2000 miles away. I hope I dont sound ridiculous and immature but hopefully everyone understands how I feel. Sometimes its not about sun sea and sand, you dont realise how important family are until they are thousands of miles away.

[Geraldine]

Originally Posted by cassie1812

Thank you very much for this information.

I thought you needed credit references and been in employment for a while etc. The house we have at the moment is Niks mums house so we pay her, I suppose she could give us a reference. So we could literally come over to England with jobs to go to obviously, and rent straight away?? What about my dogs, I have 2 labradors, small labradors, whats it like getting dogs over from Cypus to UK, does anyone know??

Thank you everyone for your help, its very comforting and reassuring :-)

As for your dogs, I think the laws have relaxed a little since the New Year, re dogs travelling abroad, have a look at Paphiakos web site as I am sure they may have some details.

Also see if you can get some used dog cages from folks who made the trip over,try the classified ads, that will save you some money.

[parkey]

Hi Cassie1812
The UK economy is back in recession in fact it was never out and recession is now a depression.
I do not think you would in the short term be entitled to help with you housing or living costs.
It appears after 6 years in Cyprus with a Cypriot partner you now feel home sick. You are struggling to make ends meet in Cyprus. I do not think much will change if you move back to the UK.
If I am correct the consensus of opinion is that Cyprus is better equipped to weather the economic storm than the UK and the effected countries in Europe.

The people here are generally depressed and struggling to make ends meet.
I would suggest you spend an hour or two looking around this forum and form your own opinion. No one on this forum is qualified to make the decision for you.
The grass is always greener.
If you and you partner have skills needed in the UK you may have half a chance if not you will struggle to make ends meet on minimum wages approx £6.00 per hour.
Rhodes sums it up well for some of us, we want to move out of this crime ridden, cold, wet over priced country where the niceness has disappeared from the people.

Good Luck.

[virgil]

Of course, it isn't all theft burglary and murders here in the UK cassie

The country isn't actually in a depression either.

You rent a property in Cyprus so you haven't got anything to sell as such, and you can rent a property in the UK.

See how it goes job wise etc. and if it doesn't work out, well - you can always return to A Place In The Sun!

When I moved to Cornwall 15 years ago, people said " oh, y'all never get a job in Cornwall",
well - I haven't been out of work once in that 15 years so I say:

Nuts to the doom n' gloom merchants

[dstump]

Obviously your dogs are very important to you, you may well find that most private landlords will not allow dogs in the UK. Some will, but you would probably have to find a larger damages deposit. Hope it all works out for you.

[Geraldine]

Originally Posted by dstump

Obviously your dogs are very important to you, you may well find that most private landlords will not allow dogs in the UK. Some will, but you would probably have to find a larger damages deposit. Hope it all works out for you.

I totally agree with this, a friend of mine here has really struggled to find a rented property which would take her dog in the UK when she returns next month.

I also know of another couple who have returned to the UK and they were unable to find a place to rent with their dog so are living in a caravan.

[RHODES4712]

Originally Posted by virgil

Of course, it isn't all theft burglary and murders here in the UK cassie

The country isn't actually in a depression either.

You rent a property in Cyprus so you haven't got anything to sell as such, and you can rent a property in the UK.

See how it goes job wise etc. and if it doesn't work out, well - you can always return to A Place In The Sun!

When I moved to Cornwall 15 years ago, people said " oh, y'all never get a job in Cornwall",
well - I haven't been out of work once in that 15 years so I say:

Nuts to the doom n' gloom merchants

no offence virgil but i havent been out of work here in the uk since i was 15 and thats 25 years. i've never claimed a penny off the state either. One thing i do know is that every employer i have ever worked for have been greedy and want every second out of you and in return want to pay peanuts. even though i've been earning £44000 a year driving trains (26k after tax and insurance) less £6000 a year in petrol, i can tell you life has been bad. They expect you to get up at 1am to drive 40 miles to then spend 10 hours driving trains all over the country with bare minimal breaks and sometimes not at all and if a train breaks down they then expect you to go out and fix it. Not to mention being examined every five minutes, i can go on and on about all sorts of safety aspects that are constantly being broken. Companies are only interested in one thing and that will always be profit. I'm no doom and gloom merchant just realistic. The goverment in this country have got everyone stitched up unless you're on benefits. For everyone who wants to go out and work for a living the government just want to take every penny you earn. look at it, council tax, inheritance tax, capital gains tax, income tax, national insurance, road tax, insurance premium tax, 20% vat, tax on petrol, tax on heating, tv licence, tax on savings, stamp duty, local authority searches, retire at 75 if i'm lucky seen as everyone that went for a private pension as the goverment suggested has not really got one now as they are all worthless. i'd love to hear from anyone that has got anything good to say about this so called "Great" Britain????????

[parkey]

I guess Virgil works in the public sector. I was born and bred in Cornwall and do not consider my self doom and gloom just living in the real world.
0.3% growth is recession coupled with an average of 5% inflation = depression and it is going to get even worse. A couple of months ago a van driving job was advertised at min wage 236 applicants in one day, it was on thel ocal news. The UK is a tough place to live if in the PRIVATE sector.
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[virgil]

Originally Posted by RHODES4712

no offence virgil but i havent been out of work here in the uk since i was 15 and thats 25 years. i've never claimed a penny off the state either. One thing i do know is that every employer i have ever worked for have been greedy and want every second out of you and in return want to pay peanuts. even though i've been earning £44000 a year driving trains (26k after tax and insurance) less £6000 a year in petrol, i can tell you life has been bad. They expect you to get up at 1am to drive 40 miles to then spend 10 hours driving trains all over the country with bare minimal breaks and sometimes not at all and if a train breaks down they then expect you to go out and fix it. Not to mention being examined every five minutes, i can go on and on about all sorts of safety aspects that are constantly being broken. Companies are only interested in one thing and that will always be profit. I'm no doom and gloom merchant just realistic. The goverment in this country have got everyone stitched up unless you're on benefits. For everyone who wants to go out and work for a living the government just want to take every penny you earn. look at it, council tax, inheritance tax, capital gains tax, income tax, national insurance, road tax, insurance premium tax, 20% vat, tax on petrol, tax on heating, tv licence, tax on savings, stamp duty, local authority searches, retire at 75 if i'm lucky seen as everyone that went for a private pension as the goverment suggested has not really got one now as they are all worthless. i'd love to hear from anyone that has got anything good to say about this so called "Great" Britain????????

I reckon you've got the UK just about summed up comrade Rhodes and you deserve a medal for that post friend!

I must admit that living in Cornwall is a bit different from an inner City etc. and although the natives are very friendly as I'm sure they are in Cyprus, Cornwall is actually one of the poorest areas of Europe and the the wages here are like LOW.

I'm glad you didn't take offence at what I wrote (many would have!) perhaps if Labour get back in No 10 in 2015 things will be a lot better for us and we'll all be able to retire at 55 on a final salary pension and we won't get involved in any more illegal wars, and we'll have a national health system we can be proud of, and the streets of London will be paved with gold, and, and (Nurse!)