costs and wages

[Veronica]

Originally Posted by Vegaanders

So you want to say that Brits who dont want to work either, just live on benefits should be treated the same way?

If they are fit to work they should be made to do work in the community such as doing old peoples gardens, cleaning grafitti off walls, clearing rubbish out of streams to stop flooding etc etc etc. no work, no money. Then they might get off their backsides and get proper jobs.

[The Stoker]

Originally Posted by Veronica

If they are fit to work they should be made to do work in the community such as doing old peoples gardens, cleaning grafitti off walls, clearing rubbish out of streams to stop flooding etc etc etc. no work, no money. Then they might get off their backsides and get proper jobs.

I think we are getting close to a very fine line here Veronica. If you break the law you may be sentenced to community service, you will probably still be entitled to benefits. If you are unfortunate to be unemployed you should carry out community service until you get a job. It seems that we are putting the genuinely out of work into the same catergory as the criminal. What I do agree with is give them jobs in the community if there are jobs to be done, but pay them a proper wage based on the hours worked at the statutory minimum wage and make up the rest of their entitlement accordingly.

[positive pam]

Trouble is there aren't that many "proper" jobs available and what is a "proper" job?
I think you have to be very careful if you start taking benefits off people altogether, (as much as I agree a lot do not deserve them) as if they do not have money what will they do? possibly steal from the people that have legitimately worked hard and earned the money they have. Then what happens? we fund them and give them a free education in jail and they still end up better off. We had a programme on telly in UK last week about murderers and one actually came out and said, he had done well due to killing someone as he had been able to study and get qualifications, while getting free board and lodging!!! You cannot believe how angry that makes me feel as my son was murdered and he, unfortunately did not get the chance to complete the education he would have liked.
I fully agree with you Veronica and think that to get their benefits, the" lazy scroungers" should be made to clean up the roads, parks, graffiti etc. and I am sure there is a way of distinguishing between the genuine unemployed who really want a job and the "others"

Ok, rant over ha ha.

Best Wishes.
Pam.

[blue0eyes0]

the bar jobs advertised on the eures website all say a min of about 900 euros per month. that seems decent enough to me

[SWJ]

900 Euros seems ok but have you proof that bars pay this much?

[blue0eyes0]

i dont have proof but like i said on the eures website which is like a european job centre website it states around 900 euros for bar work and 1000 plus for kitchen