Newbie Canadian migrant

[mr.india]

Thanks scharlack and Anj1976,

I was looking for information for Canadian immigration as a contingency plan and I think both of you have answered my question.

Scharlack, as you said to discuss this matter with my wife to choose for a destination, I think my wife is little worried on Canadian Weather as Anj1976 also highlighted.

As I spoke to my wife she reminded me that our requirement from immigration is different, it is not a very good job or money as we both have it here, but we want to immigrate with decent life so that we both can have australian / canadian passport and can give a good education / life for our kids (when we plan to have one).

I think I am spending a lot of time online and more I read more I get confused. I am going to wait for my ACS result and stick with Australia and if doesnot work out will think of Canada.

Thanks everyone..

[mr.india]

Originally Posted by scharlack

You may find this website useful.

http://ontario-cio.com/TIPS-_FOR-NEW...CANADA_PDF.pdf

Thanks, this document was very informative, I was searching for something like this .... thanks again..

[mr.india]

Originally Posted by anj1976

Hi Mr.India

Have u considered the weather? I too was thinking of Canada but after speaking to about a dozen people i gave up. It is still an option for me but only if AU doesnt work. The winter there is a killer and according to a cousin who migrated 3-4 yrs back, in ontario right now, the first 2-3 years are crazy, uget depressed because of the weather, the winter almost kills you, no matter how much you cover urself, u will barely make it.

everyone gets a job, everyone manages earning his daily bread, and i am not trying to put u against the place, its just the reality tht i am stating which every asian should consider. it isnt easy living in -40 temp if u have nvr experienced it.

the procedure is simple, u give them your papers, pay the fee. u are in a que for about 6-10 months, once ur turn comes, they check ur file, ask u for additional docs like PCC, meds etc if u fall in the category, if u dont, they pay u back and move on. when i say the pay u back would be if u r no more in the list, this is my understanding, i started reading about CAN but gave up as soon as i realised its not for me. so i might be wrong but broadly this is what i understand it is like. it takes about 12-14 months for the entire processing for the 38 skills in the list

Thanks Anj1976, for detailed information, At this time, agreed with my wife to concentrate on australia and for any reason it doesnot workout, then we will think about canada or someother destination.

Many Thanks and Best Regards,

[anj1976]

Yes we too were looking at Canada and Australia at the same time but AU is our first option and Canada follows. somehow the only place which we feel is close to favorable weathr conditions is Vancouver in Canada which is very expensive and wet and the crime rate is very high. I am running from terror and crime here, wouldn't want to go to another place where I am nervous everytime i go out.

Don't be confused, every thing has its pros and cons. weigh both but most important is weather conditions which one should be able to manage well. I know a lot of people who are form India and adjusted very well in Canada but I know about myself and my husband, we both get depressed if we dont see the sun for a few days during winters. Delhi winters are great, never goes beyond 3*C but delhi summers are a killer. they suck u dry

reading always helps, keep on reading, who knows when the info comes handy

[anj1976]

why don tu apply for both, if u can manage the fee. well, it isnt much for CAN so no harm, once u get it u can decide which place u want to go to. Its about 45K INR for u and ur wife.

[mr.india]

Originally Posted by anj1976

why don tu apply for both, if u can manage the fee. well, it isnt much for CAN so no harm, once u get it u can decide which place u want to go to. Its about 45K INR for u and ur wife.

Anj 1976, That was the idea of comming to Canadian forum to acquire more information and my wife could apply for canada. but my wife is freeked out even while duscussing about it.

You seem to have your friends and family in canada and australia which is good, while we don't know anyone in either Australia or Canada, I had a friend who immigrated to canada last year and he got his job soon after reaching there (In IT), but his process took little more than two years.

Somethimes I get worried reading stuffs here and there, but again all those are second hand information.... I am Die Hard optimist and I believe wherever we go, I think we can manage..

BTW: Delhi was a nice example, Summers are extreme hot and winters extreme cold.. most of the time I was on night shift, imagine going to wok at 2AM in Delhi cold.. I have survived and hopefully will.. Canada or Australia, both are good..

[anj1976]

hmmm sounds so much like my husband

well, i come form a joint family, we were about 40 ppl under one roof, and i have this problem of finding who is where and am very social, so keep in touch with people and also have this problem of not keeping things to myself, so everyone around me knows i will be going to AU, dunno when but yes, everyone knows which in a way is good, they keep telling me, oh tht person too is in AU and can help, blah blah.. But yes husbands friends are all over the world, and mine too.. and as i said i am a very social person, so yes the networking has worked for me. if u dig ur past, trust me, u too will find a lot of ppl.

dont worry, things happen for good and one thing leads to the other always. just take things one at a time. read as much as u can.

i can imagine going to work at 2am, my husband before we got married was in night shift as well so he used to wake me up when he was about to sleep .

my husband says more thn ur experience, its u who shud know how to sell urself when u r attending an interview.. so if u r confident, u will make it.

[jovi]

Mr. India & Anj1976,

U both have made a very sensible decision by not choosing the Canada, just apart the weather, their are other ills with Canada, but u both are neglecting the real problem lies in Canada, Canada can't provide something which she doesn't have. If you have any doubt here then please be on the real world. I don't know about others, but I come here to warn the perspective immigrants about the reality of Canada behind what they are told officially, I don't moan or groan in hope to get a sympathy job. Canada isn't the only country for the immigrants, and I can tell you that among the 3 majori immigrant accepting countries (USA, Canada, and Australia) life isn't so tougher for the educated ones elsewhere.

Funny thing is Immigration Canada doesn't target correct professions, instead they target the ones who are already over supply in the market for long. It is not hard to guess why they are intentionally doing such stupid thing over years. very simply, if they bring a plumber or a truck driver from India then how much money can he bring into Canada? They even can barely manage their plane fare. Instead, an engineer means at least 10, 000$ hard cash.

Canada can brag to the whole world that all of the country's janitors, pizza deliveries, cab drivers are of well educated university graduates! What Canada dares not tell though is that all the managers and above are illiterate, brainless, high school dropouts.

Let me quote one of your Members of Parliament (MP) Jim Karygiannis:

"...the economic downturn is no excuse to lower immigration levels, because newcomers are still needed to "fill the void of what Canadians don't want to do."

Doesn't it clearly proof how Canada or the Canadian govt. evaluates or honors the educated immigrated? In fact it is a great honor to bring them to fill the positions what they don't want to do. Amazing testimony.


Let me quote another MP who before served as Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, Diane Finley...

"Our goal is to help people get back to work, and get back to work quickly in jobs that will last. We do not want to make it lucrative for them to stay home and get paid for it, not when we still have significant skill shortages in many parts of the country."

So Mr. India, Anj and scharlack, once again i am not bias about the Canada but Canada I would say no. Too cold as Anj said, your education is worth 0 ,you got 2 re qualify which takes time and money.You don't want to repeat your degree do you?There is going to be higher crime because Canada has labor shortages and Canadians won't do factory jobs so they bring more emigrants.Also young aboriginal people join gangs and get involved with drugs and crime so the blacks and whites.Most aboriginals Like in Saskatoon don't complete the high school so the only thing left to make good money is drugs and crime.With low education there is not a chance for good paid job and decent pay.

Also Canadians don't have kids so Canada need families with many children so they can work for the future retirements for older people.

These are not the word of mouth, if u Mr. India need more testimonial just find and watch the clips on Youtube under not canada, but as u have already decide it is fine, i myself will opt for Aus first if for any reason Godforbid i couldn't than Canada will be considered, but it will be the last resort.

Cheers!

[anj1976]

hi Jovi

lets not say things against the place. weather yes is an isue with me atleast but for the rest, i wont agree totally with u, there are people, known to me, who are leading happy lives there. they got what they were worth and never looked back. everywhere u get mixed crowd, some who got good jobs, some who are still struggling and dont think its only in canada tht ppl are not getting what they want, its the same in australia as well.. it is a debatable topic.. so lets not really get into it. I am so off arguments these days.

anyway, to each his own, i respect your views.

[jovi]

Hi Anj,

U r the most helpful for me on any assistance on this website their is nothing debateable what i have written, but i do respect u most this will be the last one on the said topic, what i have written are my thoughts and i just want to share these with the rest of the world, as i said i was totally confused to decide where to go Canada or Aus, this really mess me up , but now i have clear my mind, life is full of love and i am not offending any one, might someone could get better views about any country before taking this bold decision will definetly help him.

Now i am looking my way to Aus!, hope i could reach over there

Cheers!