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Hi everyone, long time reader, first time member/poster. I need a little bit of advice.

A bit about me. I am 22 years of age, living in Australia. I hold a Bachelor of Arts and Iím training towards my commercial pilot licence. My ambitions are to move to Canada and fly up north once I obtain my Australian licence and build some hours in the logbook - after I've converted my licence, of course.

I took the Express Entry self test and didnít meet the minimum point requirements based upon the answers I gave (I calculated I have 319 points and the minimum needed last year for a PR offer was 468). Then I considered an ordinary work visa, but I couldnít find my industry listed under the jobs options (if that makes sense). Itís been my dream to move for a long time - my plan was to do two years flying in Australia, then moving - that way I have some flying experience and some money to support myself should I not find a job immediately, which is likely.

Am I missing something or have my dreams been thwarted? If anyone could offer me any advice on what to do or who to talk to, that would be genuinely appreciated. I did a free assessment based on information I supplied to an immigration lawyer based in QC and apparently my experience and skills arenít good enough. I thought about flying down to Sydney and visiting the Consulate but they don't offer immigration advice.

Hearing that makes me absolutely devastated. When I visited Toronto last year, everyone I met welcomed me as if I was already home. And now Iím being told that that dream of returning and making a life for myself, independently, has gone up in smoke.

Iím not sure if it helps, but if I were to move, I wouldnít settle in Toronto or Vancouver or any of the big cities. Iíd go to a small town - not only to increase my chances of finding a job (thatís aviation), but small town Canada looks incredibly interesting and Iíd love to settle in a small hamlet up north.

At the moment I'm lost and I'm thinking I should just cry and veto the whole idea, even though it's something I've wanted for years and years.

Thanks.

P.S.: I know that other Australian pilots have moved and worked in Canada, so either Iím missing something or Iím hopeless. I remember emailing a flight school and being told that a 21-year-old Australian recently found flying work in northern Sask., so it can be done. I just donít know what to do. Iíve tried Googling but to no avail.

P.P.S.: Other people have told me - admittedly on the internet - not to bother because Canada trains her own pilots and I wouldnít be wanted. Not going to lie, that hurts a little bit.

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I should also mention that the nature of aviation means that most jobs, especially in the bush, aren't advertised on Job Bank: one needs to go and knock on doors.

I'm thinking that will probably hinder me more; is that true?

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Hi everyone, long time reader, first time member/poster. I need a little bit of advice.

A bit about me. I am 22 years of age, living in Australia. I hold a Bachelor of Arts and I’m training towards my commercial pilot licence. My ambitions are to move to Canada and fly up north once I obtain my Australian licence and build some hours in the logbook - after I've converted my licence, of course.

I took the Express Entry self test and didn’t meet the minimum point requirements based upon the answers I gave (I calculated I have 319 points and the minimum needed last year for a PR offer was 468). Then I considered an ordinary work visa, but I couldn’t find my industry listed under the jobs options (if that makes sense). It’s been my dream to move for a long time - my plan was to do two years flying in Australia, then moving - that way I have some flying experience and some money to support myself should I not find a job immediately, which is likely.

Am I missing something or have my dreams been thwarted? If anyone could offer me any advice on what to do or who to talk to, that would be genuinely appreciated. I did a free assessment based on information I supplied to an immigration lawyer based in QC and apparently my experience and skills aren’t good enough. I thought about flying down to Sydney and visiting the Consulate but they don't offer immigration advice.

Hearing that makes me absolutely devastated. When I visited Toronto last year, everyone I met welcomed me as if I was already home. And now I’m being told that that dream of returning and making a life for myself, independently, has gone up in smoke.

I’m not sure if it helps, but if I were to move, I wouldn’t settle in Toronto or Vancouver or any of the big cities. I’d go to a small town - not only to increase my chances of finding a job (that’s aviation), but small town Canada looks incredibly interesting and I’d love to settle in a small hamlet up north.

At the moment I'm lost and I'm thinking I should just cry and veto the whole idea, even though it's something I've wanted for years and years.

Thanks.

P.S.: I know that other Australian pilots have moved and worked in Canada, so either I’m missing something or I’m hopeless. I remember emailing a flight school and being told that a 21-year-old Australian recently found flying work in northern Sask., so it can be done. I just don’t know what to do. I’ve tried Googling but to no avail.

P.P.S.: Other people have told me - admittedly on the internet - not to bother because Canada trains her own pilots and I wouldn’t be wanted. Not going to lie, that hurts a little bit.
You need to look at obtaining an IEC. THIS IS A Working Holiday Visa which permits you to enter Canada for two years and work at any job, anywhere in the country. Some such people have found permanent residence status in Canada. Read the following for details.
Rounds of invitations ? International Experience Canada

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For someone like me, who isn't at all familiar with aviation in Canada, this seemed like an interesting article:
How to become a Pilot (in Canada)

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Thank you both. For a moment there I was really, really miserable. It seems I'll be eligible for the IEC. Although I have to ask - can one move from the IEC to the Express Entry pool, or something along those lines?

EVHB - thanks for that information. I do appreciate the assistance, but the licence conversion and flying in Canada isn't the concern I have. The systems of aviation in Australia and Canada are very similar (unlike Europe, for example) - which is why there are a few Canadian pilots out here and a few Aussie pilots over there.

I still appreciate your contribution; it's heartening to know people care enough to respond to a young Aussie.

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Thank you both. For a moment there I was really, really miserable. It seems I'll be eligible for the IEC. Although I have to ask - can one move from the IEC to the Express Entry pool, or something along those lines?

EVHB - thanks for that information. I do appreciate the assistance, but the licence conversion and flying in Canada isn't the concern I have. The systems of aviation in Australia and Canada are very similar (unlike Europe, for example) - which is why there are a few Canadian pilots out here and a few Aussie pilots over there.

I still appreciate your contribution; it's heartening to know people care enough to respond to a young Aussie.
Once you come and get a job under the IEC Visa it is possible, usually with an employer's assistance to move to a more permanent status, but it does take work and patience. You need to prove to an employer and the Canadian Government that you are deserving of such help.

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I think that's going to be my problem. Why would an employer keep me for any longer than they have to, especially in the aviation industry? No wonder Australian pilots don't stay very long.

*sigh* Thanks anyway. That's put me in a bit of a miserable mood...again. I could be the most outgoing person in the world but if no-one wants to sponsor me, I've got to go home, right?

It was just a pipe dream after all.

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I think that's going to be my problem. Why would an employer keep me for any longer than they have to, especially in the aviation industry? No wonder Australian pilots don't stay very long.

*sigh* Thanks anyway. That's put me in a bit of a miserable mood...again. I could be the most outgoing person in the world but if no-one wants to sponsor me, I've got to go home, right?

It was just a pipe dream after all.
That's a very defeatist attitude. Getting to do what you want will always take grit and determination. You can use an IEC to get to Canada, check the lay of the land and work out what you need to do to get into the aviation industry. T'is better to have tried and lost than never to have tried at all.

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In my opinion, working abroad for 1 or 2 years will always contribute to your professional and personal development. But if, in your eyes, it will only have value if you are allowed to stay, than don't put in the energy.
(you don't even know if you want to stay. You may think so up front, but without actually being here, you can't be certain. We all pursued things in our lives that we really thought we wanted. Until we had it. ;-) )

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